Update on the 27th preview

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 16:41 PM-HOI-PauL.a.D

OKW

Volksgrenadier

• Panzershrek Package removed.
• Added StG 44 Package. Grants the squad two StG 44s that improve short-mid range combat for 60 munitions.
• Panzerfaust ability added which is unlocked after a truck is built.


BIG misstake of coh history about this change.


so now why would any one call in the panzerfuiller?

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 16:55 PMUGBEAR

Many posts made me laugh, ppl playing a WW2 based game and didn't know that the rear of a tank are supposed to be vulnerable ? Especially this game have no side armor or slower reversing speed implemented, that's the biggest weakness of heavy tanks, relic already made heavies noob-proof, and ppl are still crying about rear amor nerfs even when it's for both sides....

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 16:54 PMmiragefla

Rather than pointing out the obvious which is being discussed to death, you mind giving feedback?

Better fire on the move with G43s as there is no burst to limit*even if cooldown also gets lowered for AR/SMGs), better LOS with the upgrade, six man-squad, more damage output with the three G43s vs two StG, the fact they are still 6 pop-cap vs a Volk's 7, superior survivability by end-game via veterancy, relatively same damage output stock thanks to the sixth man and you even get para-flares with vet. Toss between self-healing and perma sprint. Their offensive vet are also nearly on par with each other. Volks do have more cooldown bonuses, but they also die faster.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:03 PMNezmith

I think people generally understand that rear armor is weaker than frontal armor. It already was. Now it is even moreso the case. Would you still be laughing if all rear armor ratings were at 0 and kubelwagen spam could take out anything on the field?

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:15 PMThunderhun

Didn't you defend the SWS truck killing/pushing soldiers Paulad?

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 16:55 PMUGBEAR

Many posts made me laugh, ppl playing a WW2 based game and didn't know that the rear of a tank are supposed to be vulnerable ? Especially this game have no side armor or slower reversing speed implemented, that's the biggest weakness of heavy tanks, relic already made heavies noob-proof, and ppl are still crying about rear amor nerfs even when it's for both sides....

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:14 PMUGBEAR

150 rear is far from being penetrated by machine gun, stop weed

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:40 PMButcher

Since release German tanks have been pretty much nerfed constantly with the nerf stick. I thought we had reached the ultimate low. But Relic never ceases to amaze me.

Ostheer used to be about good tanks to compensate for their small squads and general fragility. Now we ended up with Panthers hardly being able to knock out Cromwells.

They continue with their famous nerf one thing + buff the counters attitude that failed so hard the last times. This time SU-85 and Firefly get a buff + German heavies get nerfed.

If you reduce the rear armor of German heavies please consider giving them something else. More HP or more frontal armor.

RIP German lategame.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:42 PMmiragefla

I don't get this rear armour nerf complaint. You should be puinshed if you're heavy tank is outflanked.

The mediums flanking already need to expose themselves to the rear-line AT that should be supporting the heavy.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:42 PMmiragefla

IS-2 rear armour nerf? Not sure why Comet's didn't follow with their rear armour of 180, but I don't get this rear armour nerf complaint. You should be puinshed if you're heavy tank is outflanked.

The mediums flanking already need to expose themselves to the rear-line AT that should be supporting the heavy.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:55 PMNezmith

As well as Churchills and Pershings. The IS-2 may have been nerfed, but it still has more rear armor than any German vehicle (Even KT and Jagdtiger?). It was just a big, unnecessary nerf to Germans. Your punishment for being flanked is already hard-coded into the game, so it doesn't make sense to enhance the effect.

Edit: Churchills and Comets have more rear armor than the KT and Jagdtiger- this is a problem.

Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2016, 17:42 PMmiragefla

IS-2 rear armour nerf? Not sure why Comet's didn't follow with their rear armour of 180, but I don't get this rear armour nerf complaint. You should be puinshed if you're heavy tank is outflanked.

The mediums flanking already need to expose themselves to the rear-line AT that should be supporting the heavy.