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Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 16:34 PMPedro_Jedi

After OKW revamp, I feel kinda lame playing with or against it. I never had any problem with the resource conversion tool, and I liked that a lot, added a lot of depth on planning the game. And resource-starved faction was something quite thematic for the faction.

I always thought that the better volks could easily be the only revamp needed for OKW. With that faction in mind, volkshrek blobs were forgivable. Well, now, with powered up volks and full resources, loosing the shrek is a long-wait necessary nerf.

Still, I'd go back to old OKW with little thought - just send the better volks along with it.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 10:58 AMAustralian Magic

What of we keep schrecks but, lets say:
Med truck unlocks schrecks.
Rep truck unlock stgs.

?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 16:34 PMPedro_Jedi

After OKW revamp, I feel kinda lame playing with or against it. I never had any problem with the resource conversion tool, and I liked that a lot, added a lot of depth on planning the game. And resource-starved faction was something quite thematic for the faction.

I always thought that the better volks could easily be the only revamp needed for OKW. With that faction in mind, volkshrek blobs were forgivable. Well, now, with powered up volks and full resources, loosing the shrek is a long-wait necessary nerf.

Still, I'd go back to old OKW with little thought - just send the better volks along with it.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 15:27 PMSlaYoU

You might need to update your OKW database noobitof, JP4 is not in mechanized, and has never been.

To be more precise on the matter, people are far too much centered around light vehicles counters. Allies will go for early tank rush against OKW, especially that new T34. Skip light altogether, and go straight for T34 (and don't tell me you have to strangle the ally player economy before it happens, with MG34 available only after one truck is built, OKW will be a sitting duck and will NEVER have the initiative of engagements). Early T34, early Centaur, early double Stuart with free repairs (YAY, more nerfs to the mechanized truck pls).

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 16:46 PMKatitof

Besides, all of that can be countered by puma and a pair of puppchens or puma alone.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 16:22 PMAerohank

That's indeed the whole point with panzershrecks. OKW has many specialized anti-infantry units and a crappy AT gun. The panzershreks were the glue that held the faction together and allowed for several different playstyles. I don't see how this was a bad thing.

All of the changes made in the past that led to more variety always improved the game. Nerfing of the call-in meta made a lot more commanders viable for all factions. Removing OKWs resource penalty opened up a lot more strategies for them. Removing shreks will do the opposite of that.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 16:26 PMLucas Troy

What if buying the schreck reduced the squad to 4 men? The idea being that there is a trade off and the squad doesn't get too durable. What do you guys think?

Maybe even a global upgrade that makes every folks squad 4 men but unlocks schrecks. That would be a meaningful choice? Right? Or maybe not. I dunno.

Plus also volks lose their nades when given schrecks?

I just feel like there's gotta be a more creative way to deal with this than cutting things out of the game.

The logic is that the schrecks are being brought in to make up for manpower problems.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 16:22 PMAerohank

That's indeed the whole point with panzershrecks. OKW has many specialized anti-infantry units and a crappy AT gun. The panzershreks were the glue that held the faction together and allowed for several different playstyles. I don't see how this was a bad thing.

All of the changes made in the past that led to more variety always improved the game. Nerfing of the call-in meta made a lot more commanders viable for all factions. Removing OKWs resource penalty opened up a lot more strategies for them. Removing shreks will do the opposite of that.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 16:42 PMHans G. Schultz

Brilliant idea! If only other people would think like this though .


The resource starved faction was originally why I bought OKW. I really loved the new strategies that surfaced. Remember how salvaging vehicles actually did something slightly relative back then?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 17:41 PMAladdin

man, can u plz show ur playercard, I'm interested to see if you are really good at this game or just theory crafting fanboi?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 17:43 PMPedro_Jedi

You gotta show if you're asking it. Just sayin'.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 17:43 PMPedro_Jedi

You gotta show if you're asking it. Just sayin'.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 17:50 PMAladdin

fixed that for u

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2016, 19:37 PMaaa

plz dont fix smth that isnt broken. Mines are 100% balanced. Munitiouns cost more than MP and placing a mine is a risk itself bcs of mortars and vehicles. If 30 muni mine just kills 1-2 models it isnt enough to pay for itself.

It must reliably kill half of the full squad with some chance to wipe as for instance heavy tanks shots also wipe.

50 muni teller oneshots a light vehicle that is more expensive than all infantry squads. 1-2models is only ok for trip-wires.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2016, 16:01 PMLivingdead

Aww come on the Tiger doesn't need anymore nerfs
leave the Tiger alone.

and those OKW changes to make the auto repair and auto heal as upgrades are just straight up nerfs and I really feel they are unnecessary.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 17:40 PMAladdin

Removing shrecks from volks is the best thing happening to coh2 ever. Shrecked vet volks are anti everything units, but now they will have the option for a decent AI upgrade.

removing shrecks from volks would certainly discourage blobing with OKW (which has always been an issue) and encourage using combined arms, which is the best thing this game could ask for.