April 27th Balance Preview Mod Release Notes

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 23:06 PMRappy

Translation: I want to do even less work to earn my Brit victories. I want to be able to play this game with a gamepad.

Also, PIATs can definitely hit stationary targets. Plus they have longer range than panzerschreks same damage, more deflection, less penetration, faster reload. Then factor in you can have two on one engineer or other squad and it's pretty damn good.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 23:09 PMClassyDavid

A very odd choice and rather unnecessary to be honest.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 23:34 PMMistah_S

Have you played 4v4 Multi?
Many deuche nozzles think its funny to place wire on offmap spawn points, along with tank traps, in order to lose the game.
This counters that bullshit.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 23:36 PMrenvitros

A lot of people here are super competitive players who mostly play 1v1 or 2v2 where this kind of shit doesn't happen at all. I have never touched 4v4 ever and will probably never do. That's why I also think it's really fucking weird.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 23:43 PMMistah_S

Yeah, and I dont enjoy anal sex, but I'm not going to go out on a limb and ask the Australian Government to hang anyone who partakes in it...

It was weird to have them come off map in the first place; they should've done it like vCoH.
HOWEVER it will be interesting to see if this effects OKW.
Front line deployment Fresh off the assembly line LeiG/Obers anyone?

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 23:43 PMMistah_S

Yeah, and I dont enjoy anal sex, but I'm not going to go out on a limb and ask the Australian Government to hang anyone who partakes in it...

It was weird to have them come off map in the first place; they should've done it like vCoH.
HOWEVER it will be interesting to see if this effects OKW.
Front line deployment Fresh off the assembly line LeiG/Obers anyone?

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 16:47 PMCookiezNcreem

I genuinely hope this includes other non balance stuff like brit howitzers prefacing, HMG/vehicle manual reload, etc.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 23:12 PMLemonJuice

imo some of these changes are kinda questionable, but what worries me the most is the suppression buff, combined with an mg thats 210 mp, has had its far range dps doubled, and is now stock. from a 2v2 perspective its gonna be really easy to lock down entire areas of the map WHILE still being able to play aggressive thanks to the medic truck in the early stages of the game.

ostheer has a powerful suppression platform but because they dont have a forward reinforce until later stages of the game it kinda balances itself out. they perform well defensively, but when pushed off they have a hard time coming back. with the new mg34, not only is it extremely hard to push them off because you cant nade them, they literally just have to fall back to forward medic hq and then retaking the ground they lost to displacing the MG is pretty trivial

edit: another one that im confused about is the cheaper t4. panzerwerfers will come out faster, and theyre already a very strong late game unit.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2016, 00:18 AMImagelessbean

Is it time to remove the forward retreat point from OKW? I would like to see that.

Someone else also mentioned, a vet 5 MG42, which is easily attainable after vet 1, is going to be ferocious. This will also have knock on effects because a Wehr player who loses an MG team and gives the gun to an OKW player will in fact get an upgraded MG42 supporting his men.



Also, the alien-cloak bug on JPIV needs to be addressed like 10 patches ago.

• Obers will need a buff, or something that will make them shine in their AI due to volks taking that position.
  
• Adding panzerjager, or giving sturmpioneers schrecks.
  
• Make Wehrmacht trenches useful since they now have sandbags.
  
• Stop the Jagdpanzer from using it's predator cloak while moving.
  
• Think about the changes towards mines.
  
• Scale conscript to have some chance vs other infantry.
  
• Buff to the Ostwind's accuracy.
  
• Buff to the Flak Emplacement.
  
• Buff the M-42 somehow.
  
• Slight buff to the Tiger/Tiger Ace to compensate for their greater weakness in the rear armor.
  
• Reduce CP requirements of the Valentine, Hetzer, and Greyhound.
  
• Buff the Greyhound in any way possible.
  
• Decrease the chances of Guards throwing all of their weapons.
  
• Buff the B4.
  
• Etc.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2016, 00:18 AMImagelessbean

Is it time to remove the forward retreat point from OKW? I would like to see that.

Someone else also mentioned, a vet 5 MG42, which is easily attainable after vet 1, is going to be ferocious. This will also have knock on effects because a Wehr player who loses an MG team and gives the gun to an OKW player will in fact get an upgraded MG42 supporting his men.



Also, the alien-cloak bug on JPIV needs to be addressed like 10 patches ago.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2016, 00:27 AMHans G. Schultz

Relic, here are a couple of units that are in need of looking at (with the current balance changes at the moment):

• Obers will need a buff, or something that will make them shine in their AI due to volks taking that position.
  
• Adding panzerjager, or giving sturmpioneers schrecks.
  
• Make Wehrmacht trenches useful since they now have sandbags.
  
• Stop the Jagdpanzer from using it's predator cloak while moving.
  
• Think about the changes towards mines.
  
• Scale conscript to have some chance vs other infantry.
  
• Buff to the Ostwind's accuracy.
  
• Buff to the Flak Emplacement.
  
• Buff the M-42 somehow.
  
• Slight buff to the Tiger/Tiger Ace to compensate for their greater weakness in the rear armor.
  
• Reduce CP requirements of the Valentine, Hetzer, and Greyhound.
  
• Buff the Greyhound in any way possible.
  
• Decrease the chances of Guards throwing all of their weapons.
  
• Etc.