Upcoming Patch Buffs & Nerfs

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 12:08 PMHitman5

What are you hoping for? This is my list:

Nerf All LMGs

Wehr
Buffs:
Panther (Anti-Infantry damage) No has optional AI upg, Great at its intended job which is AT
Brummbar (Accuracy) Might be ok

Nerfs:
222 (Damage) EDIT read wrong, its hp got buffed last patch its fine
SU
Buffs:
B-4 (Accuracy) yes
KV1 (Damage) no not intended role little more hp or armor
Penal Battalion (Damage) give them close range wep upg or something a intended role
T-34/76 (Damage) no its cheap for reason, fix ram ability so it can be usefull

Nerfs:
None

OKW
Buffs:
Panther (Anti-Infantry damage) b]No has optional AI upg, Great at its intended job which is AT
251 Flak HT (Setup time & Suppression) maybe think just the luchs is too much of a better option same with usf flaktrack vs stuart
Flammpanzer Hetzer (Damage & Vet) umm sure i guess
MG34 (Suppression) always thought suppression is fine it shouldn't be mg42 clone

Nerfs:
Jagdtiger (Accuracy) accuracy is fine range nerf a bit

USF
Buffs:
M20 (Damage) this and M8 problem I think is how quickly all their counters hit the field same with okw flaktrack making them undesired options
M8 (Damage)
WC51 (Cost) yes
M1 AT Gun (Penetration) yes

Nerfs:
Riflemen Vet 3 (Received accuracy) no on par with other infantry vet
Motor Carriage (Accuracy) you must be joking, Needs a buff why no one uses it
Pack Howitzer (Accuracy) No god NO it and the lieg are finally in good use full spots
Calliope (AOE and damage) No, already been nerfed on par with counterparts

UKF
Buffs:
Valentine (CP) yes, saxton needs major buff both are POS

Nerfs:
Cromwell (Cost) think its fine at present time, its just really cost effective
UKF Counter Barrage (Range and Accuracy) should of been the nerf instead of hp and armor
Brace Emplacement (Cost) no imo you wanna do away with emplacements do away with okw HQ flak truck
Mortar Emplacement (HP)
Bofor Emplacement (HP)
Vickers MG (Range) no has shitty suppression it needs better suppression at sacrifice for dmg or leave as is
Comet (Cost and Anti-Infantry damage) your crazy it cost a lot to tech to it and it cost a lot, has great AI but has bad pen and AT against counterparts panther kt
AEC (Damage and treadbreaker time: 5-10 seconds instead of 20-25+) think it is fine considering UKF general weak AT early game i.e. no snares, piats cant hit moving things
Land mattress (AOE and damage)

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 12:16 PMsome one

Panther doesn't need anti inf buf it is needed nerf.

Panther is Tank destroyer in the game

Remove Top Gunner upgrade.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2016, 00:39 AMLafoMamone

That is just pure insanity. At current state i can walk my infantry next to enemy panther as it was a sheep on the battlefield. I understand that it is good in AT, and you should be forced to choose between AI and AT, but infantry should not just be able to ignore it as a threat.
By any logic no armor unit should be just a walkower for infantry.
Same for US tank destroyer.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2016, 12:08 PMHitman5

What are you hoping for? This is my list:

Nerf All LMGs

Wehr
Buffs:
Panther (Anti-Infantry damage)
Brummbar (Accuracy)

Nerfs:
222 (Damage)

SU
Buffs:
B-4 (Accuracy)
KV1 (Damage)
Penal Battalion (Damage)
T-34/76 (Damage)

Nerfs:
None

OKW
Buffs:
Panther (Anti-Infantry damage)
251 Flak HT (Setup time & Suppression)
Flammpanzer Hetzer (Damage & Vet)
MG34 (Suppression)

Nerfs:
Jagdtiger (Accuracy)

USF
Buffs:
M20 (Damage)
M8 (Damage)
WC51 (Cost)
M1 AT Gun (Penetration)

Nerfs:
Riflemen Vet 3 (Received accuracy)
Motor Carriage (Accuracy)
Pack Howitzer (Accuracy)
Calliope (AOE and damage)

UKF
Buffs:
Valentine (CP)

Nerfs:
Cromwell (Cost)
UKF Counter Barrage (Range and Accuracy)
Brace Emplacement (Cost)
Mortar Emplacement (HP)
Bofor Emplacement (HP)
Vickers MG (Range)
Comet (Cost and Anti-Infantry damage)
AEC (Damage and treadbreaker time: 5-10 seconds instead of 20-25+)
Land mattress (AOE and damage)

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2016, 00:56 AMThoseDeafMutes

There is no real world logic involved here, just game balance really. It's "stupid" that any armored vehicle with multiple mounted machineguns would be unable to cope with infantry, but that's the way it's kind of always been in CoH. Some vehicles get good MGs for no particular reason other than because it's "supposed" to be good at anti-infantry. The idea of a swarm of shrek armed infantry being a serious threat to a sherman tank at max range is implicitly absurd, not only because of its tank gun but because of the coaxial and top-mounted machineguns that would shred the charging infantry in a nanosecond. A stuart tank has THREE 30 cal machineguns on it, which would by any logic obliterate all infantry formations coming in range.

The Panther is not in a bad spot. Somewhat better AT than the comet, significantly worse AI, 10 fuel cheaper. T4 is generally underwhelming but the Panther isn't the problem.