April 20th Update

RIP Soviets.

Yea, I guess that's a reason, why almost nobody use them and even don't build T1, prefering T2 with those Maxims... Right now both tiers are useless, well done Relic, well done.

Well, I'm on a win streak in the top 100-200 using tons of T1, beating plenty of equivalent level players. Breaking into the top 100 soon. Your mileage may vary.

Explain, please....

Solid damage output for a good price.

Satchel charges are very useful.

Support conscripts very well.

yeah, just like T-34/76

Actually yes. T-34/76 is a great unit.

Congrats Rita for the OKW skin:


OKW – Ardennes Improvised Ambush Pattern Bundle by Rita Rush

Actually yes. T-34/76 is a great unit.

Then... maybe MG-34 is a great HMG or KV-1 is great heavy tank...

And then axis tanks should be not just great, but outstanding, lol. Axis and UK's.

So, because all discussion is going here (not in my thread ,but it was the first). I will join you and ask moders to close and delete my thread.

Now about patch:
1. Nerf M1910 - Ok, it is to powerfull and used as mainline infantry. If you want to make mainline infantry viable - buff it or rebalance. Maxim nerf is only the half of solution.
2. I am still don't understand, why Relic don't do something with appendix of USSR base teching - Tier One. 2.1 M3 is to expensive for light car (you pay 25 fuel for first one and very rarely build more than one).
2.2 Penal can be fully replaced by Conscripts and enginiers.
2.3 Sniper team very fragile and don't get any support weapon, unlike British or German Sniper (No MG, No mortars and no AT gun.
3. T-34 still useless for Tier 4 or still too expensive for spamtank. Unlike M4 or Cromwell it can't kill infantry or tanks effectivly.
4. SU-85 still urealible Tank Destroyer. Too RNG penetration in late game.
5. Still big number of outclassed Doctrines for USSR and Wehrmacht.
6. USA still have expensive T1 and T2. Make them consistent and cheaper maybe. Nerf rifles, but give to USA support weapon earlier.

Then... maybe MG-34 is a great HMG or KV-1 is great heavy tank...

And then axis tanks should be not just great, but outstanding, lol. Axis and UK's.

The reason the t-34/76 is great is because of its cost effectiveness. It's only 80 fuel. The main gun is perfectly competent against both infantry and vehicles.

The reason the t-34/76 is great is because of its cost effectiveness. It's only 80 fuel. The main gun is perfectly competent against both infantry and vehicles.

Don't you understand why it cost 80 fuel? It is actuall T3 unit (like Pz4), which is putted in T4. That small price is not compensation of lack of power, but compensation of such late come. Just calculate, how much fuel you have to spend for to call first T-34-76 in combat and when it happens, compared with same Ostheers and Pz4.

T-34-76 is real useless middle tank. No armor, no penetration, no accuracy, nothing. Calling that equial to throwing your fuel and MP in black hole. For that reason, people more rare build T4, cos it has only 1 usefull unit - Katysha. Su-76 is good equialent of Su-85 and T-34-76 is shitty tank.

Good to see that they are trialing a balance mod. Will be interesting to see what changes they come up with.

Yeah, don't fix Counter-Battery instead, and by fixing I don't mean nerfing to oblivion I mean actually adjusting the range so it can be viable in large map-team games as well and be better balanced than what it is now. But yeah whatever just nerf the already small bonus that usless 75ammo upgrade gives and delay the build a bit, people will just get Sappers then, what's the point?

A little underwhelming, but it sounds like there's more down the pipeline, so no big deal.

Maxim change is really good, I was expecting them to make it generic or useless, but this actually sounds decent. Without penal buffs though, Soviets are going to have a pretty rocky early game vs. OKW. Until DSHK shows up.

Emplacements change is... odd. Not bad, but not what I expected.

Shock buff is nice, 120mm pop fix sounds like its time for me to brush the dust off Guards Motor.

Anyways, sounds like the real big patch is on the way, I'm looking forward to it.

Don't you understand why it cost 80 fuel? It is actuall T3 unit (like Pz4), which is putted in T4. That small price is not compensation of lack of power, but compensation of such late come. Just calculate, how much fuel you have to spend for to call first T-34-76 in combat and when it happens, compared with same Ostheers and Pz4.

If you build all the tiers....

Sov:
15 + 20 + 85 + 90 + 80 = 290 fuel for the first T-34/76

Ost:

15 + 40 + 20 + 45 + 75 + 125 = 320 fuel for PzIV

OKW:

15 + 25 + 15 +60 + 15 +120 + 15+ 150 = 415 Fuel for PzIV

Get rekt son.

If you build all the tiers....

Sov:
15 + 20 + 85 + 90 + 80 = 290 fuel for the first T-34/76

Ost:

15 + 40 + 20 + 35 + 75 + 125 = 310 fuel for PzIV

OKW:

15 + 25 + 15 +60 + 15 +120 + 15+ 150 = 415 Fuel for PzIV

Get rekt son.

Someone forgot to add some fuel from M5 car from T3, cos you often need replacer on frontline and maybe 75-150 fuel for SU-76 for to keep enemy vechiles, cos you know what - USSR doesn't have panzerschrecks for those purpouses. So, while Ostheers and OKW can keep fuel for their tanks just spending ammo on shrecks, I have to spend fuel on tanks, cos I don't have any other effective AT. Specially, if I started with T1, not T2.

Shit inf shit tanks shit everything, rip sovs

maxim worse in every way in contrast to mg42

i acutally start to believe misscommissar is aaa, they spam threads the same way and spam comments the exact same way, with the same odd content which rarely makes any sense.

nice patch btw

Someone forgot to add some fuel from M5 car from T3, cos you often need replacer on frontline and maybe 75-150 fuel for SU-76 for to keep enemy vechiles, cos you know what - USSR doesn't have panzerschrecks for those purpouses. So, while Ostheers and OKW can keep fuel for their tanks just spending ammo on shrecks, I have to spend fuel on tanks, cos I don't have any other effective AT. Specially, if I started with T1, not T2.

You're overinvesting in t3, of course t-34 is late.

T-34 timing + t-34 killing stuff real good.

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Relic...
Maxims were obvious choice becasue Cons and Penals fail to be mainline infantry, so let's nerf maxim without any buffs to Cons or Penals.

The problem with Advanced Regiment is free Counter Barrage so.... Let's nerf bonus HP.

#Logic

You're overinvesting in t3, of course t-34 is late.

T-34 timing + t-34 killing stuff real good.

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T-34 is soviet late - Panther is Axis late. Panther is dominating - T-34 is expendable shit.

That's what I call - "B(!)alance"

T-34 is soviet late - Panther is Axis late. Panther is dominating - T-34 is expendable shit.

That's what I call - "B(!)alance"

Panther still needs a ton of support or it will get overwhelmed by ~3 t-34's

"so it takes longer to reach the field and so it doesn't replace mainline infantry."

It's almost like there is a reason why this is happening but hey, zero CP Pgrens is a stroke of balance genius.