Relic should stop balancing the game around 1v1

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 18:09 PMRappy

If you go on coh2chart alone, 3v3 and 4v4 are more faction balanced than 1's and 2's right now.

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 15:49 PMSirWinshue HueHue

Because the majority play team games whre strategy and skills are of utmost importance. 1v1 is just about a regular build order or reliance on some op units or P2W.

Team games are now broken thanks to the constant efforts by relic during the past year to make the game the way some "top" players approve of.

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 18:41 PMBasilone

First problem is that Relic values their vision of the game, whether its milking DLC sales and fixing the problem after the sales go down, or making the game intentionally casual, who knows. The second problem is that when they are consulting "top" players, its usually the more vocal community people rather than the actual top tier players.

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 19:04 PMGdot

There are fundamental problems with the game that need to be addressed before we balance. (Blobbing, teching, emplacements)

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 19:21 PMBasilone

Blobbing will never be fixed, COH2 is very conducive to it compared to vcoh and here's just a few reasons why:

-USF get smoke grenades
-conscript oorah makes spreading out less important since you can quickly relocate 1 or more squads for small muni cost
-anti infantry vehicles are either more expensive (Ostwind) or less effective (armored cars) than their vcoh counterparts
-the way mines work punish players heavily for straying from a sweeper unit
-2 factions don't have snipers
-MGs dropping on retreat give more incentive to rush everything to a defensive position now that you have better chance of recapturing it for yourself
-off map artillery is more delayed
-some units such as field support guns and Scotts are probably better at insta gibbing stationary single squads instead of punishing a blob so long as its moving
-OKW completely revolves around infantry

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 19:28 PMDonnieChan

i can remember you were a master in sniper blobbing in vcoh

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 19:12 PMThunderhun

I was a top player when Tiger Ace came out.

Same story with Britz now.
Or soviet industry.

Who is a good "top" player in your term? The one who is in top whatever or the one who"knows" the game?

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 19:42 PMBasilone

What I meant was in the early stages of the game the balance guys mostly ignored what people like Aimstrong, Seph, DevM, Tommy, Inverse, Budwise, etc. had to say. .

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 15:57 PMKovuTalli

Or, just balance 1v1/2v2 and 3v3/4v4 as two different brackets. Like PvE/PvP is balanced in other games.

Same system, slightly different stats/mechanics.

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 15:49 PMSirWinshue HueHue

Because the majority play team games whre strategy and skills are of utmost importance. 1v1 is just about a regular build order or reliance on some op units or P2W.



Team games are now broken thanks to the constant efforts by relic during the past year to make the game the way some "top" players approve of.



Let's deal with the truth, no one plays 1v1, and team games are broken as hell.