Double maxim spam.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2016, 22:28 PMBigBeefy22

Maxim Spam = MG42 spam.
The allies have been dealing with MG spam since launch. Every game is just a field of MG's. Deal with it. Or if you want them to nerf Maxims, the have to nerf MG42's. Lower suppressions, narrow it's cone of fire, lower range, remove amour piercing rounds. You can't have the best of all worlds. People seem to severely under rate the 180 degree cone of fire and range on the MG42's. The wide cone of fire and long range outweighs and is far more valuable than any amount of suppression, setup, speed and teardown times by far.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2016, 22:49 PMClick

Again, how is okw supposed to counter this spam?

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2016, 22:28 PMBigBeefy22

Maxim Spam = MG42 spam.

The allies have been dealing with MG spam since launch. Every game is just a field of MG's. Deal with it. Or if you want them to nerf Maxims, the have to nerf MG42's. Lower suppressions, narrow it's cone of fire, lower range, remove amour piercing rounds. You can't have the best of all worlds. People seem to severely under rate the 180 degree cone of fire and range on the MG42's. The wide cone of fire and long range outweighs and is far more valuable than any amount of suppression, setup, speed and teardown times by far.

Axis have superior mortars to allies, plenty of vehicles for dealing with MG's, and flame grenades for when you can flank it.

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2016, 23:10 PMPencilBatRation

An exact copy of this thread exist. https://www.coh2.org/topic/49148/the-maxim-hmg-needs-a-hotfix


Tier0-1 HMGs do not allow a fair gameplay. Vickers is the worst offender.


Case closed.

Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2016, 22:37 PMFiresparks

how about just increasing the cost of the maxim to 260mp? mg42 had the same issue and increasing its price fixed it.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 00:34 AMMistah_S

Lol, bugger off.
MG42 spam isnt the same. Allies have A LOT more counters to MG's than the Axis do.
Zis, Satchel, Flamethrower, Smoke
Axis have Mortar, smoke dependant on mortar and flame...

That is, if you try and do it with one unit.
A skilled player will either flank, or learn a building's blind points and use it to their advantage.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 00:48 AMStug life

Dude that's like saying cons spam = volks spam
And about the aa half track 1 can fire on the move the other ....

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 18:12 PMStug life

one needs to stand still to attack and the other not they both shred LV but from my understanding you are saying dat a Mobil suppression platform is equal to an immobile one ...
Does that mean that the okw aa track can maybe get same hp as Bofors ? (The return of the beast)

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 18:21 PMwhitesky00

Does that mean you can give bofors 1920 HP of Flak HQ with armor penetrating rounds and suppression?

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 18:55 PMvoltardark

Problem with maxim spam is :
-Lack of any AT option in T1
-Countering blobing

How to counter maxim spam : one of many solutions :
OKW : Sandbags, bunkers + leIGs , fall or infiltration tactic
Wer : mortars.

Thx.

Jump back to quoted post12 Mar 2016, 22:28 PMBigBeefy22

Maxim Spam = MG42 spam.

The allies have been dealing with MG spam since launch. Every game is just a field of MG's. Deal with it. Or if you want them to nerf Maxims, the have to nerf MG42's. Lower suppressions, narrow it's cone of fire, lower range, remove amour piercing rounds. You can't have the best of all worlds. People seem to severely under rate the 180 degree cone of fire and range on the MG42's. The wide cone of fire and long range outweighs and is far more valuable than any amount of suppression, setup, speed and teardown times by far.

Axis have superior mortars to allies, plenty of vehicles for dealing with MG's, and flame grenades for when you can flank it.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 20:06 PMBulgakov

How to reply like Voltardark:

Play only allies (not a crime in itself)

Talk as if you know both perspectives. Be as glib as possible (check dictionary for definition of glib)

Ignore any information that contradicts with your narrow-minded viewpoint.

Write thanks at the end even when (especially when) you don't mean it.

Thanks.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 20:06 PMBulgakov

How to reply like Voltardark:
Play only allies (not a crime in itself)
Thanks.

Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2016, 20:18 PMvoltardark

I pity you for having such a black heart. I'm just trying to have a fun game, that it. Stop your bullshit.

In 4vs4, i don't see people maxim spamming a lot, because of the counters i posted.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2016, 05:11 AMMistah_S

I kek'd.
Especially the thanks at the end.



Lol, this is the internet dude. You are bound to find more bullies than IRL.
Best to ignore them.
And to be frank, you only provided 1 viable counter to Maxim spam as WER, which lead me to believe you only play Allies

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2016, 16:29 PMA big guy 4u

Absurd.

Do you have any idea that soviet early game pretty much revolves around the maxim?

Cons have no non-doctrinal weapons, and will get slaughtered by grenadiers with MG42s.

Also, MG42 is already better than the maxim. It has the best MG special ability while maxim gets a useless sprint.

And in case you didn't notice, MG42 has a much higher fire rate, and german mortars are now absurdly more accurate compared to soviet one.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2016, 18:08 PMDrink

AOE supperession ignores cover. This is a problem.
So the problem is NOT in maxims.
And remove those annoying U-turns and "death loops". Its annoying as hell.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2016, 18:11 PMzarok47

So buff the maxim more?

Sure go ahead, i always wanted a top 10 spot.