Soviet AT gun
Posts: 168
Why does the barrage ability cost 60 (SIXTY!) munitions?
It fires 1 shot for every 2 of the PAK and has less armor penetration.
Why? Why isn't the barrage 10 munitions or 15? I thought the tredeoff for its rate of fire was versatility?
Posts: 89
Why does it cost 320 MP?
Why does the barrage ability cost 60 (SIXTY!) munitions?
It fires 1 shot for every 2 of the PAK and has less armor penetration.
Why? Why isn't the barrage 10 munitions or 15? I thought the tredeoff for its rate of fire was versatility?
you must be new
Posts: 368
Posts: 2307 | Subs: 4
http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=75mm_pak_40_mp
http://stat.coh2.hu/weapon.php?filename=zis3_76mm_m1942__at_gun_mp
Pak OP, it has more suppression.
Posts: 2885
Posts: 1487
The barrage is overpriced 2 times minimum and doesnt fit for ATG in general.
Posts: 281
Posts: 393
Posts: 1487
Posts: 199
The ZiS is a solid AT but it is expensive considering its penetration on German frontal armor which is its primary role. The RNG on a panther frontal for example is only a slight deterant at best. At the current cost it is too expensive to spam late game if you are facing large numbers of tanks. At the current rate it needs a slight pen buff because of slow RoF.
The cost of 60 munitions IS excessive for the barrage as it currently stands. 2 mines or a demo/satchel charge is a better investment. Buff it/reduce the cost of it to match performance or replace it with something else like a flare for self spotting.
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
I'd trade barrage for stun shot every single time.
I'd prefer 2 mines over 1 useless ZiS barrage.
Posts: 1585 | Subs: 1
"How do I use the Zis gun most effectively?"
Posts: 174
Zis is good. Please instead frame your post in the form of a question:
"How do I use the Zis gun most effectively?"
Not as good as the Pak-40 or 6-lber.
Of course still better than 57 mm.
Posts: 1024 | Subs: 1
In game it's terrible, I would rather to have M1 57mm than this piece of crap which could be comparable to M-42. The problem is accuracy and RoF which is terrible and vet seems not helping either.
Posts: 5279
Posts: 275 | Subs: 1
the highest pen of all soviet non doc AT
SU-85 have same pen.
Posts: 5279
SU-85 have same pen.
Probably could have worded it better but that was my point... That their highest non doc pen is the that of their first and last dedicated AT units...
Posts: 199
Zis has Alot going for it, 6man crew, the highest pen of all soviet non doc AT and the barrage is actually really great for machine guns if you dont have a mortar (or to use with the mortar) since the soviet have the luxury of not being able to upgrade anything ever since scaling is a dirty capitalist idea they have plenty of munitions to throw around.
We must be playing a completely different style because with my flame penals satchel charging, engineers sweeping and mining and guards upgrades I'm always waiting on munitions.
Livestreams
70 | |||||
42 | |||||
641 | |||||
29 | |||||
2 | |||||
1 | |||||
1 |
Ladders Top 10
-
#Steam AliasWL%Streak
- 1.831222.789+37
- 2.35057.860+15
- 3.622224.735+2
- 4.1110614.644+11
- 5.276108.719+27
- 6.306114.729+2
- 7.919405.694+3
- 8.262137.657+3
- 9.722440.621+4
- 10.1041674.607-2
Replay highlight
- cblanco ★
- 보드카 중대
- VonManteuffel
- Heartless Jäger
Board Info
5 posts in the last week
33 posts in the last month
Welcome our newest member, Spdcderry
Most online: 2043 users on 29 Oct 2023, 01:04 AM