Changes For Tulips?

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2016, 11:21 AMObersoldat

Agreed I thought Relic wanted less 1 shot abilities in the game

But then they should make it cheaper or have faster reload?

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2016, 11:19 AMFiresparks

here's what I propose:

firefly cost lowered to 350 mp 125 fuel 12 pop
tulip upgrade cost lowered to 30
tulip rocket cost lowered to 60
tulip rockets changed to 2x100.

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2016, 11:19 AMFiresparks

here's what I propose:

firefly cost lowered to 350 mp 125 fuel 12 pop
tulip upgrade cost lowered to 30
tulip rocket cost lowered to 60
tulip rockets changed to 2x100.

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2016, 11:25 AMgeneral_gawain

Don't like the concept that all armor the allies have is more spammable and inferior to axis side. I like the fact that brits don't have spammable tanks but tanks that can go toe-to-toe with axis tanks. They already went the wrong way with Churchills by toning done armor and health. They should have bring the fuel cost over 200 instead and leave it like it was.

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2016, 20:46 PMGlokta

Rather then a price drop increase the 17lber pen and rof. It's fluffy USP is a gun that can pen German heavies.

Takes a whole 2 minutes to mod and afterwards the FF feels "proper".

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 02:19 AMFiresparks

pure tank hunters like the firefly should be reasonable affordable, and 440mp 155 fuel is not affordable.

an affordable tank hunter give the faction a fallback unit against armor spam. The wehr have stug, us have jackson, soviet have the su76 and su85, and the okw have the jagdpanzer and puma.

an overly expensive specialized unit like the firefly are not really that useful.

even the jagdpanzer 4 is still within reasonable price range.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 02:24 AMPanzerGeneralForever

And all of these other tank hunters can 1 shot mediums in 2 seconds.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 02:24 AMPanzerGeneralForever

And all of these other tank hunters can 1 shot mediums in 2 seconds.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 02:53 AMFiresparks

the point is to gave the british a reliable tank destroyer that's not prohibitively expensive or risky to use.

With the churchill and comet being both expensive generalist tank, the Firefly should be a cheaper anti-tank support.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 02:38 AMelchino7

The JPIV can with the help of veterancy and heat shells. With PV mark vehicle is also easier

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2016, 11:03 AMIIGuderian

The problem with the Tulip is that it deals way too much alpha damage. Pursuant to the stats provided on stat.coh2.hu(where exactly is this HU anyway?), the main gun of firefly deals 200 damage on penetration and the left and right rocket deals 240 damage respectively (kinda surprised me that the two rockets don't actually share the same profile tho ),which in total deals 680 damage at once. Yes ofc we have to take into account the possibility that the 76mm AP shell got bounced off , but come on does that really happen?
What does this really mean tho? Well it means the firefly is able to bring down almost 70% of the health of the Tiger (1040 hit points), half of the health of the King Tiger (1280 hit points), and make the panther blitzkrieg backward for its 175 fuel worth of life (800 hit points ),while raping the Pz 4 to death (640 hit points); all in a blink of an eye.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 03:16 AMPanzerGeneralForever

That being said, the 6 pdr is arguably the best AT gun and the firefly is excellent vs heavies with the tulips.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 03:17 AMPanzerGeneralForever

In 2 seconds?? I haven't played the WFAs for a while so i'm not sure if there have been any changes that im unaware of.

Jump back to quoted post27 Feb 2016, 04:22 AMFiresparks

the lack of a snare or accurate atw make the 6 pdr a bit risky to use. british infantry probably have the worst anti-tank weapon in the game.