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Soviet T3 and T4 suggestion

23 Feb 2016, 16:11 PM
#21
avatar of Australian Magic

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Putting T34/76 in T3 won't change a thing. It still will be quite useless. What's more, current price in T3 would be unacceptable, while increasing it's price will stand agasint performance.
That's why it's hard to put it in tech.

T34/85 non-doc.
T34/76 double/single call-in.
23 Feb 2016, 20:07 PM
#22
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

Reasons why this will never happen:

1. T34/76 has too much health to be in T3, axis players won't have enough AT
2. T34/85 in T4 invalidates the advantages of the P4
3. If there is no replacement in T4, T4 would simply be ignored by players
4. This ideas have been suggested since alpha and if relic actually thought it was a good idea they would have done it years ago.
23 Feb 2016, 20:33 PM
#23
avatar of Necrophagist

Posts: 125

Or you could all together learn how and when to use a T34/76 and stop proposing bad changes.

There are three commanders with T34/85, one commander with the M4 Sherman, another one with the KV-1, so you really do have options for a 'different' medium-like tank.

The T34/76 is not the tank you're looking for, but please, for rest of us that it is, leave it where it is. Thank you.
23 Feb 2016, 21:20 PM
#24
avatar of TheSleep3r

Posts: 670

Or you could all together learn how and when to use a T34/76


You mean watching it burn five seconds after engaging the enemy?

but please, for rest of us


Rest of who? No one is using that tank :snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter:
23 Feb 2016, 21:50 PM
#25
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

In all seriousness, the T-34 is bad. But it's not so bad that we need to be messing with soviet tech.

A simple buff or manpower reduction is all that needs to be done.
24 Feb 2016, 02:12 AM
#26
avatar of TNrg

Posts: 640

In all seriousness, the T-34 is bad. But it's not so bad that we need to be messing with soviet tech.

A simple buff or manpower reduction is all that needs to be done.


Even when buffed and, it would just come too late when it's currently now in T4. Without giving it ridiculous buffs, you couldn't make it worth the cost in T4 IMO.
24 Feb 2016, 02:47 AM
#27
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Feb 2016, 02:12 AMTNrg


Even when buffed and, it would just come too late when it's currently now in T4. Without giving it ridiculous buffs, you couldn't make it worth the cost in T4 IMO.
how is coming out at the same time as p4 and Sherman too late? If it came out any earlier it would be the only medium tank during a time where there is only light vehicles.
24 Feb 2016, 06:10 AM
#28
avatar of Adviser

Posts: 53

how is coming out at the same time as p4 and Sherman too late? If it came out any earlier it would be the only medium tank during a time where there is only light vehicles.

And now it arrives when it is an unarmed jar:snfPeter:
24 Feb 2016, 07:54 AM
#29
avatar of Katitof

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how is coming out at the same time as p4 and Sherman too late? If it came out any earlier it would be the only medium tank during a time where there is only light vehicles.

Something like OKW panther hitting the field before other factions with equivalents even think about teching to unlock the equivalent? :snfPeter:
24 Feb 2016, 08:06 AM
#30
avatar of MATRAKA14

Posts: 118

In all seriousness, the T-34 is bad. But it's not so bad that we need to be messing with soviet tech.

A simple buff or manpower reduction is all that needs to be done.


But soviet commanders need the t34/85 at T4 anyways.

jump backJump back to quoted post24 Feb 2016, 07:54 AMKatitof

Something like OKW panther hitting the field before factions with equivalents even think about teching to unlock the equivalent? :snfPeter:


Indeed OKW panther can hit the field extremely early, and not only that, have you tried team games with supply drops? you can feed teammates to get 2 KT around minute 11/14.
24 Feb 2016, 08:32 AM
#31
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Ehhh I like the suggestion of two T34/76s in one price bundle.

Call in t34/76 just wouldn't work. If Ostheer/Soviets were designed around crappy medium-tank call ins (panzer 3 pls), that would work, but call in t34/76? nawww. not worth it.
24 Feb 2016, 08:36 AM
#32
avatar of MATRAKA14

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Ehhh I like the suggestion of two T34/76s in one price bundle.

Call in t34/76 just wouldn't work. If Ostheer/Soviets were designed around crappy medium-tank call ins (panzer 3 pls), that would work, but call in t34/76? nawww. not worth it.


If it gets some bufs or cap territory changes or ram changes it could be worth it. Or if we get crazy it could be transformed into OT34 or t34/57 or elite vet3 t34s.

24 Feb 2016, 10:00 AM
#33
avatar of Necrophagist

Posts: 125



You mean watching it burn five seconds after engaging the enemy?


As I said, you're using it wrong.



Rest of who? No one is using that tank :snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter:



I've seen it enough times in competitive 1v1.
24 Feb 2016, 10:06 AM
#34
avatar of TheSleep3r

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As I said, you're using it wrong.



Please enlighten me, oh great one :snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter:
24 Feb 2016, 11:28 AM
#35
avatar of Necrophagist

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Please enlighten me, oh great one :snfPeter::snfPeter::snfPeter:


That won't be necessary ;)
24 Feb 2016, 11:45 AM
#36
avatar of TheSleep3r

Posts: 670



That won't be necessary ;)


ok den, continue your odyssey to 1st place in 1v1 soviets by your uber smart play with t-34s while desperately protecting your replays from the others to avoid letting them steal your precious tactics :sibHyena:
24 Feb 2016, 12:10 PM
#37
avatar of Necrophagist

Posts: 125



ok den, continue your odyssey to 1st place in 1v1 soviets by your uber smart play with t-34s while desperately protecting your replays from the others to avoid letting them steal your precious tactics :sibHyena:


If you dislike it so much why don't you use one of the 5 commanders that offer an alternative? ^^
Faction symmetry isn't something people want. Deal with the fact that the Soviet faction lacks a medium tank.
24 Feb 2016, 12:34 PM
#38
avatar of TheSleep3r

Posts: 670



If you dislike it so much why don't you use one of the 5 commanders that offer an alternative? ^^
Faction symmetry isn't something people want. Deal with the fact that the Soviet faction lacks a medium tank.


It's not that i want a medium tank, I want something that can be used and not lead to defeat :romeoMug:
24 Feb 2016, 13:04 PM
#39
avatar of Bananenheld

Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1

since ive been playing soviets exclusive for the past weeks i can say i only use t34/76 to seal the deal against ostheer. doing base drive bys with them. wont work against okw because flak and shreks.

but i cant seem to use t34/85 either, they seem to suck so hard for me but im not a good player either just maxims let me rank up so easily.
24 Feb 2016, 13:19 PM
#40
avatar of TNrg

Posts: 640

...im not a good player either just maxims let me rank up so easily.


The first step is accepting the truth :D I don't maxim spam because you don't learn anything by doing it. I hate the players who think they are good because they get high ranks spamming maxims... or using anything that happens to be broken at the time to gain ladder ranks. Such ignorance. Getting a bit off-topic here though.
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