Replace spio with vgren as okw starting unit

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 16:50 PMCaptain QQ

What you are saying, if I understand correctly, is that the opening Spio rushing my fuel on this map is just as effective as a Soviet engineer rushing the enemy fuel point.

Ok, lets say i did this. Spio has capped my fuel and has now got himself holed up in the building covering it in the south.

I cannot retake the fuel as it would be too close to the spios and I would lose lots of models. To get my fuel back I would need to put at least 2 cons on the fence by the road and spend the next minute shooting him out of the building.

Meanwhile, my engineers at the enemy fuel point have been forced off by a kubel or volksgren because they are only 4 men armed with nuggets.

For the price of annoying his fuel I am now without a tech start and have a severe lack of map pretense while the okw player got his fuel back first, did not experience any lag in teching and has more map control. All in the first 2-3 minutes.

False status: Demonstrated.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 17:29 PMPanzerGeneralForever

Or you can just ignore the Spios and cap his fuel with cons and CEs. This aint rocket science m8. If you really don't want him in that house just put your CEs or cons in it.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:00 PMCaptain QQ

You are completely ignoring the fact that doing all this gimps you tech wise along with map presence.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:06 PMPanzerGeneralForever

Pro tip: Normal Strategic sectors give you fuel and munitions.

The map is bigger than just one fuel sector.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:18 PMCaptain QQ

Why do you refuse to admit that spio, kubel is unbalanced?

Why do you keep grasping at straws trying to make me look dumb while ignoring the central point?

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:26 PMPanzerGeneralForever

I'm refusing to admit that spio, kubel is unbalanced because i don't think it is unbalanced.

What straws am i "grasping" at? You are complaining that spios rushing fuel is OP. Im saying its not because you can cap elsewhere (like his cutoff).

If you don't think i'm answering your central point, please clearly define it and tell me what you want me to say because you don't seem to like people disagreeing with you.

This thread should be in the strategy section.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:29 PMGdot

Allies are dominating every game mode - lets complain about the kubel!

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:29 PMGdot

Allies are dominating every game mode - lets complain about the kubel!

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:32 PMCaptain QQ

I disagree with people who start out by attacking my game knowledge in an effort to put me on the defensive. If you read through the thread I am only arguing with the people that attack me personally as opposed to the argument.

You said I should send my engineer to cap the cutoff. Doing this retards my tech upgrades and has no guarantee of working while a spio has a much better chance of success with far less punishment if it fails.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:33 PMCaptain QQ

UKF touched me inappropriately once. All allies are OP!

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:40 PMKatitof

Current charts beg to differ.
There is advantage for allies in 2s, but 1s and 3s are balanced and 4s belong, as usual, to axis.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:40 PMKatitof

Current charts beg to differ.
There is advantage for allies in 2s, but 1s and 3s are balanced and 4s belong, as usual, to axis.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:42 PMGdot

I think you meant to say:

"greetings friends, I am having trouble against OKW initial opening. Here is a replay and what I have been doing - hopefully you can give me some pointers."

Complaining about axis being OP is just going to make you look foolish and lack credibility. This is why people are 'attacking' you.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 19:05 PMThunderhun

Can't a mod just come and end this troll thread?

Katitof;. L2Read Charts and watch tourney games and you might not get owned big time every time.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 18:32 PMCaptain QQ

I disagree with people who start out by attacking my game knowledge in an effort to put me on the defensive. If you read through the thread I am only arguing with the people that attack me personally as opposed to the argument.

You said I should send my engineer to cap the cutoff. Doing this retards my tech upgrades and has no guarantee of working while a spio has a much better chance of success with far less punishment if it fails.

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 19:12 PMCaptain QQ

This isn't a troll thread. YOU came in and demanded our attention by declaring people you disagree with to be "noob"

Is everything else in life a troll if you disagree with it?

Jump back to quoted post17 Feb 2016, 19:36 PMThunderhun

You are the one arguing with everyone and refusing FACTs, it doesnt matter how we tell it to you...I consider this attention whoring.

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