Calliope and Teching
12 Feb 2016, 15:39 PM
#1
Posts: 61
Should the Calliope be placed in the Major tech branch (and of course buildable instead of call in) ?
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12 Feb 2016, 15:41 PM
#2
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Why?
It doesn't replace stock, weaker calliope like you know, ez8 and T34/85 do.
It doesn't replace stock, weaker calliope like you know, ez8 and T34/85 do.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
12 Feb 2016, 15:41 PM
#3
Posts: 281
Yup, it should be in teching.
12 Feb 2016, 15:42 PM
#4
Posts: 1273
I don't think it should replace anything in the Major Tech Tier. Wait, does it actually replace something? I doubt that the Calli is a better Scott.
12 Feb 2016, 15:47 PM
#5
Posts: 61
Why?
It doesn't replace stock, weaker calliope like you know, ez8 and T34/85 do.
First, it would put it in line with most factions where rocket artillery is tier locked.
Second, it would avoid USF just rushing to it while Ostheer and OKW are still using infantry and waiting for tanks.
Third, (and this one is the least important) it paralells with stock, being a sherman variant, though the m10 and the bulldozer might get away with it unless they get a unexpected buff to their original aim (AT and AI/AB respectively)
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12 Feb 2016, 15:48 PM
#6
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The call-in system is very confusing. I wish they would just streamline it some more. Can't have no-tech EZ-8s call in spam but STUG-E into Tiger is still alright for some reason. I wish they would just place all call-in tanks in the tech-tree.
12 Feb 2016, 16:08 PM
#7
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First, it would put it in line with most factions where rocket artillery is tier locked.
Most factions rocket artilery is not doctrine locked already.
Second, it would avoid USF just rushing to it while Ostheer and OKW are still using infantry and waiting for tanks.
USF rushing what?
You can have sherman well before you can call-in calli.
If anything, calli would arrive about 5 minutes FASTER and by the time the first comes out now, there would be 2 now.
Third, (and this one is the least important) it paralells with stock, being a sherman variant, though the m10 and the bulldozer might get away with it unless they get a unexpected buff to their original aim (AT and AI/AB respectively)
Puma, MHT, 250, StuG-E, M5, M3, suxton, priest.
Explain them then.
It doesn't parallels with anything, its completely different unit with completely different role then anything USF have in any of their tiers. EZ8 and 34/85 are the only units that match your 3rd point and that is why they are tech locked. And by the way, tech lock made them both arrive faster.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
12 Feb 2016, 16:10 PM
#8
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Faster compared to what? 
12 Feb 2016, 16:12 PM
#9
Posts: 468
First, it would put it in line with most factions where rocket artillery is tier locked.
Second, it would avoid USF just rushing to it while Ostheer and OKW are still using infantry and waiting for tanks.
Third, (and this one is the least important) it paralells with stock, being a sherman variant, though the m10 and the bulldozer might get away with it unless they get a unexpected buff to their original aim (AT and AI/AB respectively)
Most factions rocket artilery is not doctrine locked already.
USF rushing what?
You can have sherman well before you can call-in calli.
If anything, calli would arrive about 5 minutes FASTER and by the time the first comes out now, there would be 2 now.
Puma, MHT, 250, StuG-E, M5, M3, suxton, priest.
Explain them then.
It doesn't parallels with anything, its completely different unit with completely different role then anything USF have in any of their tiers. EZ8 and 34/85 are the only units that match your 3rd point and that is why they are tech locked. And by the way, tech lock made them both arrive faster.
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How about we put JT, KT, command panther, and whatever else call ins into tech tree as well?
Maybe do it for infantry as well? Jaeger, fallschim, ranger, airborne, ass grens, whatever else i missed.
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12 Feb 2016, 16:15 PM
#10
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The call-in system is very confusing. I wish they would just streamline it some more. Can't have no-tech EZ-8s call in spam but STUG-E into Tiger is still alright for some reason. I wish they would just place all call-in tanks in the tech-tree.
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12 Feb 2016, 16:59 PM
#11
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Bad idea. We would have faster CalliOPs
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12 Feb 2016, 17:07 PM
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12 Feb 2016, 17:17 PM
#13
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IDK, I kind of like scrub USF players who don't bother with Major and only build Calliopes. So much fun when you overrun them with Medium tanks 
I do agree with Aerohank though that they should really streamline vehicle call-ins. I'm still kind of shocked that Lend-Lease kept their Sherman call-in. Though I can kind of get why relic didn't - deciding which building to move them to can potentially drastically affect unit timing. For example Puma in OST Tier 2 is a lot different then 5 CP Puma.
I do agree with Aerohank though that they should really streamline vehicle call-ins. I'm still kind of shocked that Lend-Lease kept their Sherman call-in. Though I can kind of get why relic didn't - deciding which building to move them to can potentially drastically affect unit timing. For example Puma in OST Tier 2 is a lot different then 5 CP Puma.
12 Feb 2016, 18:17 PM
#14
Posts: 468
SHOULD TIGER BE ATTACHED TO GERMAN TIER 4, AND ELEFANT
Sure, but please add every allied call in as well. heavies are still limited to 1
lefh 18, ml 20, b4 are buildable. usf can build priests and calliopes. everything! make commanders usesless
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12 Feb 2016, 20:33 PM
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The call-in system is very confusing. I wish they would just streamline it some more. Can't have no-tech EZ-8s call in spam but STUG-E into Tiger is still alright for some reason. I wish they would just place all call-in tanks in the tech-tree.
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12 Feb 2016, 21:00 PM
#16
4 Posts: 444
literally doesn't matter, it'll just arrive faster lol. You can easily go Major and you probadly have more then 145 fuel by the time your CP's hit 10.
Edit: You know what would be nice, a command p4 requiring t3 to build.
Edit: You know what would be nice, a command p4 requiring t3 to build.
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12 Feb 2016, 21:39 PM
#17
Posts: 656
The call-in system is very confusing. I wish they would just streamline it some more. Can't have no-tech EZ-8s call in spam but STUG-E into Tiger is still alright for some reason. I wish they would just place all call-in tanks in the tech-tree.
+1 to that. There is zero consistency with tech requirements vs call-ins. It really seems as though relic started to experiment with tech requirements using the E8 and T34/85 then dropped the project and never reverted the changes.
12 Feb 2016, 21:45 PM
#18
Posts: 960
The call-in system is very confusing. I wish they would just streamline it some more. Can't have no-tech EZ-8s call in spam but STUG-E into Tiger is still alright for some reason. I wish they would just place all call-in tanks in the tech-tree.
This is actually a pretty good idea.
+1.
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12 Feb 2016, 21:51 PM
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I say no. If you wait it out for Calliope first without going major you will be at a major disadvantage to any armor coming out on the field. If it is tied to the Major it will probably come out even sooner now that CP doesn't matter, and then followed up by an easy Jackson.
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12 Feb 2016, 23:50 PM
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Adding commander units to tiers is a bad idea, they should just tie them to the tiers and buildings but still be callins.
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