M36 Jackson

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2016, 02:37 AMFG127820

I read a document prepared by the US army a while ago on US tank destroyer doctrine in WW2. TDs were almost always used defensively and that's how I see them in the game; never chase. Soak up vet and use HVAP shells to consistently give your opponent a bloody nose. If you want to dive tanks and come out alive, then play with Panthers.

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2016, 21:09 PMTheMux2

Hvap, still find it stupid that usf has to pay for armor

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2016, 23:47 PMBananenheld

then ostheer desperatly needs something for the "light vehicle" stage of the game before usf gets touched, or tell me how many ostheer players did you see in 1v1 in the past days ?

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2016, 02:37 AMFG127820

I read a document prepared by the US army a while ago on US tank destroyer doctrine in WW2. TDs were almost always used defensively and that's how I see them in the game; never chase. Soak up vet and use HVAP shells to consistently give your opponent a bloody nose. If you want to dive tanks and come out alive, then play with Panthers.

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2016, 01:58 AMMLad

IMO, 6-8 zooks are much better at scaring away German armor then Jacksons. At least, infantry has much better chances to survive after someone sneezing on them

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2016, 08:41 AMkitekaze

The zook blob may work, but quickly becomes invalid by weefee from another wehr player.

Back to the topic, M36 gun should be more reliable at penetrating panther and tiger at long range (you can't use them at close range at all).

Jump back to quoted post8 Feb 2016, 21:02 PMSwitzerland

Pathing has nothing to do with shots bouncing off of heavy axis armour late game.

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2016, 03:22 AMthedarkarmadillo

At least the capitalists CAN pay for pen... The reason communism failed is because their non doc pen is capped at 200..

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2016, 14:16 PMNepomuk

I think the issue with balancing the USF is the hugh difference in 4v4 (useless) vs 1v1 (very strong). On everything higher than 2v2 every OST player goes staight to T4 and crushes USF tanks post 25 min with panthers and brummbaer. In a 1v1 you can counter heavy armor either by an infantry advantage denying your enemy to cap the map or flanking. Both tactics are nearly impossible with all the units of a 4v4. Thats why most 4v4 are actually just standoffs around the VPs. I dont understand why they cannot change the balance depending on the playmode. I believe that would be the best option to avoid overpowering the USF in 1v1 and to bring it back as a valuable fraction in 4v4. Other than that you could replace the sherman easy8 with a sherman firefly. Since the easy8 is not a callin anymore I really dont see it being used anymore.

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2016, 10:14 AMZyllen

Are you kidding me? the jackson is the the third best TD that can penetrate a heavy tank. the only ones that do it better are the panther and the firefly but they have shit dps. with hvap they are the best TD's to take on heavy tanks.

the weakness of the m36 is not heavy tanks but medium tanks. 2 p4's will have a far better chance to catch a m36 and because of their much higher dps can quickly eliminate a lone m36.