OKW, the only faction with constant cloak

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 15:33 PMVuther

Well, I'm pretty sure it can't be exactly a copy of those ones (and I mean exactly), because Raketen's supposed to gain shittons of penetration. If the Mandos had that, they'd of course be killing tanks.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 15:40 PMThe_Courier

This is balanced by Raketens having low range and DPS compared to other AT guns, and JP4 being the most expensive non-superheavy TD.

Granted, the JP4 phasing issue needs to be fixed, the cloak is fine. Maybe make it easier for infantry to detect so that supporting troops can protect your armor better, but no more than that.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 14:47 PMAustralian Magic

Bro, becase KruppSteel? Daaa?

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 15:40 PMThe amazing Chandler

Both, because COH2 cloak works much better then vCOHs. COH2 unit have no permanent cloak and it is really cool that way. All units in vCOH had permanent cloak (see Snipers) and all players (top or flop) agreed that the cloaking in COH2 is much better.
I don't know how else i can explain it.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 15:54 PMcarloff

Almost.

Here https://www.coh2.org/topic/34211/it-is-ok-to-have-tank-with-invisibility-in-this-game/post/325781

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 12:42 PMTalore

This is such a non-issue it hurts.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 15:40 PMThe amazing Chandler

Dont forget the advantages that Raketten has, cheapest AT gun and the highest ROF.And also the only AT gun that can retreat. I think that this is enough, dont you think? The cloak should stay but it should work like all the other units in this game.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 12:21 PMruzen

I dont feel like Its an issue.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 13:40 PMDonnieChan

bait thread





playercard pls

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 13:48 PMMr.Smith

Having out-of-combat persistent cloak for those units is fine; it gives the game a bit of flavour.

However, in the way this is implemented, stealth is completely broken in this game:
- You can abuse stealth so that your JP4 is CONSTANTLY stealthed (even while firing)
- It even causes some phasing issues, where you can't hit stealthed units with attack round.

Here's a video that elchino created about it a long time ago:

(watch at the 1:05 mark about how to properly "use" JP4 camo)



I'm 99% sure that the predator phasing bug hasn't been fixed, yet. Last night I used the cloak to dodge some Tulip rockets (and kill off the 2 fireflies that fired them on me).

I will concede that at vet0, the Raketenwerfer is rather situational (slow speed, reduced range etc). However, to those of you complaining that the Raketenwerfer sucks, have you actually checked its veterancy?
- At vet1 there is no movement penalty to cloak
- At vet4, it can even outrun infantry

I would like to know how you guys manage to counter AECs/Calliopes without Raketens (no, mines don't count)

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 18:20 PMMittens

This is an issue contrary to everyones beliefs. The jagpzr 4 with vet can be a down fall for some armies such as if u go IS2. Imagine if the Jackson had active camo where rounds can phase through.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 14:22 PMWhySooSerious

raketen has less range and its a light rocket AT Gun. Also raketens arent an issue. JP4 dodge camo is though.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 18:10 PMThunderhun

The value of these threads are equal to the use of NKVD.

I find these useless threads disturbing.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 18:18 PMMr. BugCollector

Can you stop this nonsense please? How is it troling? He DOES have a point.


I have lost multiple light vehicles to one sneaky puppchen powered by Andromeda-Cloacking-Technology. But it's most game breaking on falls.



Let's get rid of cheese once and for all.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 19:20 PMThe amazing Chandler

What an argument. You blew up my mind, wow!

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 19:33 PMDonnieChan

the aim time of a puppchen is like 2h.

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 19:35 PMThunderhun

What do you expect on a pointless thread?

I've never had problems with sneaky units nor anyone else (only snipers)

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 19:33 PMDonnieChan

sry but thats l2p

the aim time of a puppchen is like 2h.

have you ever played coh1?

Jump back to quoted post4 Feb 2016, 16:16 PMThe_Courier

It still suffers from inferior stats (such as firing cone and tracking speed) in many other cases. Raketen is far from being a balance problem. Its ability to retreat is balanced by the fact the crew has no protection unlike conventional AT guns.