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[OKW] MP44, FG42 need a heavy nerf

Is sturmpioneers as the free, starter unit a good idea? (Specially for the new OKW)
Option Distribution Votes
72%
28%
Should falls purchase their FG42s?
Option Distribution Votes
61%
39%
Should Falls be able to pop out of neutral buildings.
Option Distribution Votes
69%
31%
Total votes: 182
Vote VOTE! Vote ABSTAIN
3 Feb 2016, 00:43 AM
#1
avatar of Mr. BugCollector

Posts: 51

FG42; It is effective at all ranges indeed, and that's why it shits on balance. Even worse, you can pop them out anywhere you want, and immediately turn the game in your favor even if you have no brain and are a god awful player. Oh and did I mention that you get it for free? Unlike the Thompson and other similar stuff.


MP44; It is extremely broken on sturmpioneers and creates an aweful mismatch against USF/SU. Once you are caught off guard you should press the 'T' key on your keyboard hysterically or you will lose your expensive suqad. Also If they are approaching and charging into your rifleman you should run away as fast you can. And all for a mere 20MP cost difference. Did I mention that you get one for free right at the start of your game?

Panzergrenadiers are OP as well. Their mid range is insane and that needs to be reduced.




3 Feb 2016, 00:50 AM
#2
avatar of ferwiner
Donator 11

Posts: 2885

2nd poll lacks option "they are ok". Also are you sure you are not spamming threads?

Oh, and btw all starting units are worth just as much as they cost, nothing different here.
3 Feb 2016, 01:01 AM
#3
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

I'll let DonnieChan do the honors
3 Feb 2016, 01:05 AM
#4
avatar of ferwiner
Donator 11

Posts: 2885

I'll let DonnieChan do the honors


:clap: this guy probably doesn't even know what you are on about :D

Btw guys, did you see in the first poll? FREE SQUADS :thumbsup:


Panzergrenadiers are OP as well. Their mid range is insane and that needs to be reduced.


Oh god, just read that one. I was recently talking with somebody that AI version of pzgrens is the only unit that is so ballanced nobody ever called it OP. Now my collection of OP threads for every single ostheer and soviet unit is full at last :luvDerp:
3 Feb 2016, 01:39 AM
#5
avatar of KtheZ

Posts: 14

Abstained because I think falls are fine (which is not represented in poll 2)

Also whats with the biased options in poll 1? Geez.
3 Feb 2016, 01:42 AM
#6
avatar of PanzerGeneralForever

Posts: 1072

FG42; It is effective at all ranges indeed, and that's why it shits on balance. Even worse, you can pop them out anywhere you want, and immediately turn the game in your favor even if you have no brain and are a god awful player. Oh and did I mention that you get it for free? Unlike the Thompson and other similar stuff.


MP44; It is extremely broken on sturmpioneers and creates an aweful mismatch against USF/SU. Once you are caught off guard you should press the 'T' key on your keyboard hysterically or you will lose your expensive suqad. Also If they are approaching and charging into your rifleman you should run away as fast you can. And all for a mere 20MP cost difference. Did I mention that you get one for free right at the start of your game?

Panzergrenadiers are OP as well. Their mid range is insane and that needs to be reduced.




My guess is you have only played against these units because a bias is poking its head up.
3 Feb 2016, 01:43 AM
#7
avatar of Thunderhun

Posts: 1617

I'll let DonnieChan do the honors
3 Feb 2016, 01:51 AM
#8
avatar of MoreLess3rd

Posts: 363

do u make account just to complain? or seek to improve?

i suggest u ask any strategist to help u improve. better that way.
3 Feb 2016, 01:54 AM
#9
avatar of Tobis
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Donator 11

Posts: 2307 | Subs: 4

Horrible poll. All of these are fine.
3 Feb 2016, 02:01 AM
#10
avatar of Vuther
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Posts: 3103 | Subs: 1

Don't bait out in public.
Neo
3 Feb 2016, 02:03 AM
#11
avatar of Neo

Posts: 471

Silly poll. Falls are the most expensive Axis infantry in the game and arguably overpriced.
3 Feb 2016, 02:04 AM
#12
avatar of atouba

Posts: 482

No, means No. Pzgren is OP? lol... And I refuse to vote in the 2nd one.
3 Feb 2016, 02:36 AM
#13
avatar of bert69

Posts: 150

What kind of poll is this DansGame
3 Feb 2016, 02:57 AM
#14
avatar of EtherealDragon

Posts: 1890 | Subs: 1

Someone has clearly never tried to spam Falls and then get rekt because you bleed MP so bad its not funny.

The only thing about Strums is I feel like they should remove the 100% movement speed over rough terrain - it was a nice bonus back when they were more expensive and you rarely built more than 1 additional one but now it feels a bit excessive; especially against Conscripts. Otherwise they are fine.
3 Feb 2016, 03:02 AM
#15
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

Official forums, plz come soon.

Poll and thread is bad and you should feel bad (\/) (°,,,°) (\/)

Only thing worth discussing is if they should adjust their cost and let them paradrop instead of spawning from buildings.
3 Feb 2016, 03:04 AM
#16
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

Did I mention that you get one for free right at the start of your game?


No you don't, the cost of the starting squad is automatically subtracted from your starting manpower.
3 Feb 2016, 03:04 AM
#17
avatar of Talore

Posts: 73

Oh lawd I'm laffin. That second poll option is particularly golden.
3 Feb 2016, 03:26 AM
#18
avatar of BlackKorp

Posts: 974 | Subs: 2

1. show playercard

2. stop talking trash

it's pathetic how many guys around here just with a few post start discussions like that :facepalm: maybe just bored trolls :sibToxic::hansWUT:
3 Feb 2016, 03:40 AM
#19
avatar of MoreLess3rd

Posts: 363

Official forums, plz come soon.

Poll and thread is bad and you should feel bad (\/) (°,,,°) (\/)

Only thing worth discussing is if they should adjust their cost and let them paradrop instead of spawning from buildings.


what happen official Forum is up??
3 Feb 2016, 06:28 AM
#20
avatar of Nuclear Arbitor
Patrion 28

Posts: 2470

No. They beat all similary priced units, hence they shouldn't come for free.


this is stupid. for one, they don't necessarily beat similarly priced units and spios can also cause heavy mp bleed to their player. it's also not why i have issues with them as a starting unit. two, they don't come for "free". all factions have a starting mp amount (which iirc is higher for OKW due to a patch late last year) and the starting unit is deducted from that amount.
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