defensive doctrin

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2015, 18:18 PMAerohank

Soviet Defensive tactics is one of my favorite Soviet doctrines. It is absolute death for anyone who thinks 1 sweeper is enough to deal with the mini AI mines. The rest of the doctrine is weak though, and falls apart against anyone who realises that you can make more than 1 sweeper.

I would suggest:
-Leave DHSK, 120mm mortar and AI mines as is.
-Make the M42 at gun 1cp. Give it a vet ability that allows it to dig-in for cammo and a damage/pen bonus when attacking out of cammo. This ability would fit the defensive theme and can not be used offensively.
-Turn tanktraps into "reinforced defences" or something and make it include tanktraps, reinforced barbed wire instead of regular wire and Soviet bunkers.

These changes would make the doctrine more flavourfull.

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2015, 22:18 PMstrafniki

i really like most of your suggestions, also the fact that this is an interesting topic for you guys!
but i still like to see a better pen for the dshk, even its one amazing machinegun. its punishing blobbing so hard luchs has 13mm armor, but dshk cant even scratch it with AP rounds. seems legit

Jump back to quoted post29 Feb 2016, 22:50 PMMistah_S

If you are going to tweak that commander, then I insist on doing the same for my Axis counterpart.

Jump back to quoted post29 Feb 2016, 22:59 PMBananenheld

i support you but that statement just sounds sooooo wrong

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2015, 12:24 PMF1sh

I reworked this doctrine a while back with my own ideas:

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No more Dushka because of bunkers, no more M-42 because of TM-44, and the heavy mortar ain't that good anyway.

Jump back to quoted post29 Feb 2016, 23:04 PMVuther

Can't fix Jaeger Infantry Doctrine, 'cause NKVD Rifle is bad.

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 01:43 AMTobis

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Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 01:52 AMVuther

Me too. I just don't like how I'm never actually going to be able to have the munitions to use all of it

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 01:52 AMVuther

Me too. I just don't like how I'm never actually going to be able to have the munitions to use all of it

Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2015, 10:05 AMstrafniki

currently i am playing a lot with the sov. def. doctrin, but it seems a bit strange.

dshk penetration seems to suck a lot. AP rounds are crap compared to MG42 ones. (do they actually work..?)

the tanktraps are also a bit of a joke aswell, because USF has non doctrinal ones at 0 CP.

i would also love to see the 45mm AT at 1CP tbh.

what are your opinions on it?

Jump back to quoted post1 Mar 2016, 01:43 AMTobis

I would still like to see the M-42 in the doctrine. It's a shame, I like the unit (in concept) but it is just terrible in every way. They need to give it the puppchen treatment and make it actually useful as a viable at option in contrast to the zis. Give it some more utility through abilities like the puppchen has (I don't mean exactly what the puppchen has). It seems like what they were going for was a commander to replace t2 in t1 heavy builds, but it doesn't work out because of lackluster at performance.