So... Why Does OKW Have P4? (Forgotten Topic)

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 02:08 AMNorthWeapon

?NorthWeapon:Remove Panzer IV-J from Tech and add it back to Doctrine?

• OKW's theme is specialized units- It WAS
  
• Panzer IV-J is not specialized - Indeed
  
• Panzer IV is symbolic to Ostheer - Not really
  
• Ostheer's main perk (Tier 3) is rendered useless - i d like to hear why
  
• Removes all weaknesses of OKW (in addition to 100% resources) - was pretty much needed
  
• A faction deprived of weaknesses is an unbalanced faction - agree, btw OKW isnt without weaknesses, you just want particular weaknesses for OKW
  
• Doctrinal Panzer IV-J was a genius idea especially with skirts & commander - yet unused for years, how genius
  
• Make the Panzer IV-J behave differently (maybe less AI, more AT, or vice versa) - why?
  
• OST Panzer IV should have its old skin back to distinguish from Panzer IV-J
  

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 08:18 AMRaindrop

Stug III with an assault gun role which would fire HE shells would be the best replacement imo.

I would be more diffrent then the "tank destroyer" Stug III of OH.

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 08:41 AMkitekaze

OH Doctrinal Stug III Ver E?

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 08:18 AMRaindrop

Stug III with an assault gun role which would fire HE shells would be the best replacement imo.

I would be more diffrent then the "tank destroyer" Stug III of OH.

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 09:17 AMAchtAchter

I personally find it at least questionable that somebody that doesn't even play a certain faction asks to remove units from that certain faction. The P4 was swapped because nobody used the elite armour doctrine call in P4s and likewise nobody used the Sturmtiger.

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 09:44 AMGLBZ

right now okw have so fast t3
need something like you need research in t3 in order to build panthers,obers and kt for 100/150 fuel
right now P4 is something that only 50f less then panther... in same with panther tier

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 08:18 AMRaindrop

Stug III with an assault gun role which would fire HE shells would be the best replacement imo.

I would be more diffrent then the "tank destroyer" Stug III of OH.

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 08:57 AMKozokus

I can't think of a better idea. The StugIIIE would be a nice replacement and would fit the thema of specialised units some people are missing.

+1

Kozo.

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 09:17 AMAchtAchter

I personally find it at least questionable that somebody that doesn't even play a certain faction asks to remove units from that certain faction. The P4 was swapped because nobody used the elite armour doctrine call in P4s and likewise nobody used the Sturmtiger.

By swapping these units relic was able to buff the Sturmtiger and additionally increase the tactical possibilities you have as a OKW player hence this decision was one of the most popular one (according to the survey) in the British alpha.

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 12:57 PMSpaceHamster

The things I would do for a Panzer 3 to be added to this game.

Alas, woe is me! My hopes will never be answered

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 14:06 PMKozokus

I'd like to hear the things you would do

Kozo.

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 14:09 PMSpaceHamster

I'd pay relic a 100 dollars for a PZ3 commander OpieOP

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 09:17 AMAchtAchter

I personally find it at least questionable that somebody that doesn't even play a certain faction asks to remove units from that certain faction. The P4 was swapped because nobody used the elite armour doctrine call in P4s and likewise nobody used the Sturmtiger.

By swapping these units relic was able to buff the Sturmtiger and additionally increase the tactical possibilities you have as a OKW player hence this decision was one of the most popular one (according to the survey) in the British alpha.

Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 14:46 PMJohnnyB

Well, as a proposal, I wouldn't be against removing P4 and replacing it with STUG IV for example, as a generalist, good against infantry and tanks somwhere around ostheer P4's performance. I allways thought COh2 should bring more weapons on the scene. It could team up with a volks wall pretty good..... .