Feel like they got hit a bit hard tbh, they have trouble being useful unless they are ambushing lone squads. Perhaps they were intended to be mainly an ambush unit but they aren't very effective for their cost I think.
What do you think, should they get a slight buff?
Commandos in a good place?
11 Nov 2015, 18:21 PM
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11 Nov 2015, 22:28 PM
#2
Posts: 503
Need to do some testing. In a 3v3 on Angermuende yesterday I landed some next to 4 ISGs and 1 Volk squad and only was able to kill 2 ISG models of 1 gun before having to retreat with only 2 models left. The green cover gun shields might have been the reason as I can't remember if I was shooting at front of the ISG but it also shouldn't matter as all cover except garrison cover is ignore at 10 meters and under. Part of that is probably also the fact that I wasn't able to come out of cover and get the ambush speed/DPS bonus that you can get for springing an ambush (i landed glider right in middle of them).
Becuase of their awesome grenade, their demo charges adn cloaking I am glad they aren't terminators anymore but due to their very high cost/reinforcement I think they might need a slight buff of some kind.
Becuase of their awesome grenade, their demo charges adn cloaking I am glad they aren't terminators anymore but due to their very high cost/reinforcement I think they might need a slight buff of some kind.
11 Nov 2015, 22:38 PM
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the call in price is a bit expensive. The glider is really too expensive for 150 mp. There isn't really a lot of place where the glider can land close to the front in one piece. Furthermore you can't repair the glider and it's vulnerable to small arms as well.
410 mp is a better price.
although the light gammon bomb is still the most devastating grenade in the entire game. It's stupidity powerful and cheap at the same time.
410 mp is a better price.
although the light gammon bomb is still the most devastating grenade in the entire game. It's stupidity powerful and cheap at the same time.
11 Nov 2015, 22:38 PM
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The Sten got nerfed too hard, the Airlifting Officer is quite useless.
11 Nov 2015, 22:41 PM
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The Sten got nerfed too hard, the Airlifting Officer is quite useless.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LOYMDi_XR7rILsk6HbAZqGihsk22t-45C_6NbQEP-m0/edit#gid=0
16.46 at close range is still pretty good. With the cloak ability the commandos can routinely toss a grenade and use their sten to mop up.
11 Nov 2015, 22:42 PM
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Is their only stat vet bonus 25% accuracy still?
If so, they will always underperform as long as they have WORST scaling in the whole game.
If so, they will always underperform as long as they have WORST scaling in the whole game.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
11 Nov 2015, 22:50 PM
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LOYMDi_XR7rILsk6HbAZqGihsk22t-45C_6NbQEP-m0/edit#gid=0
16.46 at close range is still pretty good. With the cloak ability the commandos can routinely toss a grenade and use their sten to mop up.
The Officer got no cloak.
11 Nov 2015, 23:00 PM
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The Officer got no cloak.
What's the stats on his inspire-thingy ability again?
11 Nov 2015, 23:07 PM
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Is their only stat vet bonus 25% accuracy still?
If so, they will always underperform as long as they have WORST scaling in the whole game.
they probably need a .77 received accuracy and .80 cooldown in there somewhere. Probably at vet 3
The Officer got no cloak.
I can't say much about the officer, as I don't have the vanguard doctrine
11 Nov 2015, 23:17 PM
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Posts: 738
they and the airlanding officer need to be cheaper.
500mp for a squad that gets rekt by panzergrens. Also their vet sucks
500mp for a squad that gets rekt by panzergrens. Also their vet sucks
11 Nov 2015, 23:17 PM
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I killed a commando squad at very close range with 2 LMG grens the other day. They really are not that dangerous anymore.
11 Nov 2015, 23:24 PM
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They're about as effective as Vet 3 Assault Grenadiers right out of the box, I think that's pretty okay. They should probably ditch the glider idea though, because everyone complains about the glider holding them back so much. It's completely overshadowed by Vanguard Glider anyway.
Just let them Parachute in like USF Airborne, not only would people be happier, but it's also more realistic. Commandos didn't glider drop, but some did para-drop.
Just let them Parachute in like USF Airborne, not only would people be happier, but it's also more realistic. Commandos didn't glider drop, but some did para-drop.
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11 Nov 2015, 23:32 PM
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What's the stats on his inspire-thingy ability again?
-75% receive accuracy at the cost of hoorah
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
11 Nov 2015, 23:59 PM
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-75% receive accuracy at the cost of hoorah
They removed all the other stuff?
If so, good.
12 Nov 2015, 02:15 AM
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They removed all the other stuff?
If so, good.
Just checked, haven't seen anything that would imply they did.
So then it's probably still obscenely broken for providing an AoE Oorah! with crazy accuracy and received accuracy bonuses for 5 munitions over Oorah!
12 Nov 2015, 03:02 AM
#16
Posts: 721
410 mp with glider insertion otherwise they are fine still killed a ober close range and falls to so performing good
12 Nov 2015, 03:52 AM
#17
Posts: 403
Maybe shorter cloak duration at vet 0 and a vet bonus to cloak duration that would be longer than the current one would allow for more rewarding play.
My place in the ladder is irrelevant as long as I am matched with opponents of the same rank and play all factions (balance at place 1000+ is no different from balance in top 100 if we consider what I said before the brakets) so I don't care about your assertion which is also irrelevant.
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