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2v2 is done

4 Nov 2015, 21:29 PM
#1
avatar of gman1211

Posts: 133

The balance in 2v2 at the moment is the worst it has ever been, by a long shot. Germans have zero answer to any skilled British players, their snipers are borderline invincible. Match those snipers with US riflemen and the game is just hopeless. I've played roughly 10 2v2 games as axis in the last 2-3 days and haven't managed to win out a single game. Admittedly, I'm no pro, but I do have 700 hours in the game and an equal amount in the first CoH, and consider myself a fairly competent player.

Something needs to change, and I'm not touching axis again until it does.
4 Nov 2015, 21:31 PM
#3
avatar of Puppetmaster
Patrion 310

Posts: 871

I can't say I'm really having much of a problem. When you say "skilled" players, what ranking are we talking?
4 Nov 2015, 21:36 PM
#5
avatar of Butcher

Posts: 1217

L2P
This is what´s wrong with this forums. You don´t even concern yourself with what the OP posted. You are just using a standard phrase.

He has some valid points. I also experienced that my 2v2 losses increased drastically since the September patch. I currently can only play 2v2 Axis with a set teammate. Winning with randoms is impossible these days - it wasn´t the patch before.
4 Nov 2015, 21:41 PM
#7
avatar of AchtAchter

Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3

What do you think guys? Will we see less than 50 % winning rate for OKW too this week? Place your bets!
4 Nov 2015, 21:46 PM
#8
avatar of Skabinsk

Posts: 238

Are you playing 2v2 RANDOMS or 2v2 ARRANGED TEAMS? This is the big factor.
4 Nov 2015, 21:47 PM
#9
avatar of BlackHooligan

Posts: 150

i have 3-0 wins today with OST in 2v2s and am around 1000 regarding rank
4 Nov 2015, 21:52 PM
#10
avatar of gman1211

Posts: 133

Ya, I highly doubt OKW will break 50%, id put them more in the 35% range. Ostheer can stand up better, but even then they feel noticeably weaker. When I'm playing axis, it honestly feels like your fuel starved for the entire game, either via tech costs or a literal penalty.

As for my skill as a player, I usually sit around the 500-700 rank, but often spike upwards when I have the time. Generally speaking I win 55-60% of the time. This is specifically in 2V2 Random teams.
4 Nov 2015, 21:53 PM
#11
avatar of Tomakaze
Patrion 14

Posts: 141

Well, Germans in 2v2s may be struggling according to some of the data, but at least 4v4s are balanced now...
4 Nov 2015, 21:53 PM
#12
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819

I also don't have a problem with 2v2.
I actually enoy it (and also rage sometimes), but after the rage I see that I just played bad.
4 Nov 2015, 22:06 PM
#13
avatar of DonnieChan

Posts: 2272 | Subs: 1

the main problems i see:

-croc being hardcounter to 2-3 atguns and not the other way around
-croc and hawker typhoons in the same doc
4 Nov 2015, 22:27 PM
#14
avatar of gman1211

Posts: 133

4v4 Feels great at the moment, but 4v4 has always favored armored engagements. And ya, crocs are nasty, but in the games I'm playing are over long before that phase.

The minute Brits hit tier 2, they pump out a few snipers (usually 2-3). These sniper will pick off enough units from ostheer squads forcing a retreat, and OKWs volk squads simply don't have the AI to kill them before the re-cloak. When light vehicles show up, there ability to snare the vehicle at long range means they can't engage the snipers at all. Seriously, who though giving a panzerfaust sniper range was a good idea?
4 Nov 2015, 22:38 PM
#15
avatar of Intelligence209

Posts: 1124

OHey sniper having a 6 second cammo cooldown, British sniper not.... British sniper able to make SC useless. Either reduce cammo time for OH sniper or increase British cammo time. Oh yeah grenade are in need of love. Simple
4 Nov 2015, 22:45 PM
#16
avatar of pastasauce

Posts: 29

The balance in 2v2 at the moment is the worst it has ever been, by a long shot. Germans have zero answer to any skilled British players, their snipers are borderline invincible. Match those snipers with US riflemen and the game is just hopeless. I've played roughly 10 2v2 games as axis in the last 2-3 days and haven't managed to win out a single game. Admittedly, I'm no pro, but I do have 700 hours in the game and an equal amount in the first CoH, and consider myself a fairly competent player.

Something needs to change, and I'm not touching axis again until it does.



ummmm im sorry but 700 hours is not a lot, reach around 1200 hours and you can consider yourself an experienced player, all i can say is stop playing axis like you were used to. adapt , or find yourself a good player mate.
4 Nov 2015, 22:46 PM
#17
avatar of pastasauce

Posts: 29

I also don't have a problem with 2v2.
I actually enoy it (and also rage sometimes), but after the rage I see that I just played bad.


thank you, finally someone with good sense.
4 Nov 2015, 22:46 PM
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4 Nov 2015, 22:51 PM
#19
avatar of SpaceHamster
Patrion 14

Posts: 474

Well a winrate above 50% obviously means axis are overperforming.

And yes, I'm salty because of rifle company meta every game I get.
4 Nov 2015, 22:52 PM
#20
avatar of hubewa

Posts: 928




ummmm im sorry but 700 hours is not a lot, reach around 1200 hours and you can consider yourself an experienced player, all i can say is stop playing axis like you were used to. adapt , or find yourself a good player mate.


Really really really silly and flamy post.

Name one occupation where 700 hours is "not enough experience". 700 hrs is more than a month straight of playing if you played 24 hrs a day.

Hell even learning how to drive doesn't require 700 hours before you're an "experienced driver".

700 hours is more than enough to be experienced in a game.
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