Rangers feedback

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2015, 20:48 PMContrivance

While we're on the topic, the standard firearm of the Rangers was the M1 Garand, backed up with a single M1919 light machine-gun per section, and a single M2 60mm mortar and two Bazookas per platoon. So an M1919 LMG upgrade would not be out of the question.

Submachine-guns were not officially issued at all to the squads, but US troops were packrats and found ways to get their hands on additional equipment all the time. One well-documented trick that Infantry Company commanders had was to officially declare their weapons platoon had 'lost' their two light machine-guns and then requisition some 'replacements', effectively doubling their automatic firepower

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2015, 23:55 PMVuther

Thanks, I couldn't really find much hard stuff on SMG usage by the Yanks. Apparently that's why.

Jump back to quoted post2 Nov 2015, 07:51 AMsirphilliam

What about a thermite grenade for a special ability? Useful for destroying resource caches or destroying unmanned AT guns/mgs, while behind enemy lines.

I was actually reading about the rangers during their assault on Point Du Hoc and they used thermite grenades to destroy the German artillery pieces. M1941 LMGs would be sick as well.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2015, 03:02 AMNigelBallsworth

Hi all,
First of all, I am completely unaware of the "numbers" behind the Rangers; this is just my opinion...they seem somewhat underwhelming. For a squad that costs 400 MP, and comes at 3 CP, I expected a bit more punch. They seem to die fairly easily, at least they did to fallschirmjaegers, a unit which , if I'm not mistaken, costs the same. Also, I seem to remember a description of them as being troops that specialize in marksmanship and demolitions. Yet, they are lacking in demo charges, and any special marksmanship related ability. At the very least, in order to fulfill their role as frontline shock troops, I'd like to see Fire Up. I'd also like the Thompsons to be free. Leave everything else as is, I guess, since they don't seem to have very many hit points....

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 19:26 PMEtherealDragon

Has anyone tried the whole "give them 3 BARs" idea yet? Kind of curious how that compares to the Thompsons.

Thermite grenades would be fun as hell, especially with Relic's new "Fire, fire everywhere!" game design

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2015, 18:46 PMImagelessbean

I understand people's interest in giving them more flavor, but their flavor is that they come with 3 weapon slots and can upgrade smg's. That is already pretty unusual for a USF unit. The issue of giving them more versatility is that this is a buff. This would make the unit have more combat roles. Things like increased movement speed would be a huge buff because they could close the gap quickly and deal huge DPS. TFire up would allow them to ignore suppression partially. A new grenade option would give them more roles against infantry and buildings that they currently don't have (again a buff). Nerfs in other areas seem unlikely since the unit is expensive to reinforce, so needs to be very powerful as it gains vet to make sure you can afford to keep it around.

Careful what you wish for.

Jump back to quoted post4 Nov 2015, 02:50 AMelchino7

Ideas:
Remove self healing at vet2. Replace with smoke nade.
Add Royal Engineers or Paratroopers demo charge.
Give them a satchel charge.

Jump back to quoted post4 Nov 2015, 02:58 AMVuther

This strikes me as a bad idea with how amazing Paras are already.

Jump back to quoted post4 Nov 2015, 03:50 AMKubelecer

Paras amazing? Right now rifles are better in almost all scenarios.

Jump back to quoted post4 Nov 2015, 02:58 AMVuther

This strikes me as a bad idea with how amazing Paras are already.

Also, Royal Engineers? Are you really referring to that UKF engineer unit, or did you mean up your REs and meant to say Rear Echelon?

Jump back to quoted post4 Nov 2015, 05:09 AMBeefSurge

Oh yeah, how did I forget, Satchel Charges can blow up bunkers and OKW buildings too.