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AngryKitten465
31 Oct 2015, 17:03 PM
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Please for the love of god, don't ever pick Arnhem Checkpoint ever again. This map is so allied favored it hurts me to even see the name.

We have had plenty of examples in OCF where Riflemen swarms and conscript swarms simply overrun almost all axis players.

Now watching the Haloweencup, that didn't ban riflecompany, you can just wager that the person who plays riflecompany the most on Arnhem Checkpoint, wins. It is just that easy. No Ostheer player can win vs riflecompany on this shitty map.

For once, think things through thoroughly before you choose maps, because a lot of people don't want to admit it, but 90% of the maps are unbalanced and total shit. You wouldn't put Semoisky in a semi final or final map pool now would you? Ostheer with CAS will win every freaking game on that map. Please, although having only three or for legit maps is a little boring, you at least have good games where the chances are even and it doesn't depend on who can pick Riflecompany of CAS for 2 out of 3 games :foreveralone:
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.

It feels handicapped from the start


No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
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Kreatiir
31 Oct 2015, 17:35 PM
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but 90% of the maps are unbalanced and total shit

There you have your answer.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
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Dullahan
31 Oct 2015, 17:39 PM
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Arnhem is indeed an irritating map, but I wouldn't so much say it is allied favoured as it is infantry favoured. All the cutoffs and buildings are a wet dream for players that build a ton of infantry rather than players who use support weapons and light vehicles.

Americans and Soviets have the easiest time due to their large amount of infantry, but a heavy grenadier/pio playstyle is equally annoying.

I tend to prefer Toad to Kharkov, Crossing in the wood and Kholodny as far as 1v1 is concerned.
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Kreatiir
31 Oct 2015, 17:41 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 17:39 PMDullahan
Arnhem is indeed an irritating map, but I wouldn't so much say it is allied favoured as it is infantry favoured. All the cutoffs and buildings are a wet dream for players that build a ton of infantry rather than players who use support weapons and light vehicles.

Americans and Soviets have the easiest time due to their large amount of infantry, but a heavy grenadier/pio playstyle is equally annoying.

I tend to prefer Toad to Kharkov, Crossing in the wood and Kholodny as far as 1v1 is concerned.


Crossing? Hell no.
Road to Kharkov? Hell no. Better go for Minsk then.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
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Muxsus
31 Oct 2015, 17:51 PM
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Please for the love of god don't ever pick <any coh2 map> its so <faction> favored.

As examples I can name Crossing, Road to Kharkov or Semoskiy that appear frequently in tourney map pools and are heavily favor a faction.
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luvnest
31 Oct 2015, 17:55 PM
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Actually it's just Rifle Company. It's the definition of P2W if you ask me. Lose faction selection, lose the game. Arnhem is beautiful, love the map.

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United
31 Oct 2015, 18:02 PM
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USF does what USF does best, and what USF does best is win 1v1

The map is fine.
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AngryKitten465
31 Oct 2015, 18:02 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 17:55 PMluvnest
Actually it's just Rifle Company. It's the definition of P2W if you ask me. Lose faction selection, lose the game. Arnhem is beautiful, love the map.


Hm partly true, yet you will lose 100% of the time if you lose faction selection on Arnhem Checkpoint, because you can't select rifle company 2 out of 3 games. This doesn't happen on other maps.
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.

It feels handicapped from the start


No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
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VIPUKS
31 Oct 2015, 18:04 PM
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Actually just let people choose map. Problem solved :)
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Swift
31 Oct 2015, 18:12 PM
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If you watch the beginners tournament next weekend, I've put in place a system that lets players choose the map. I think it's barmy that all games in a round are played on the same map and that system is old and needs a revamp.
The internal battery has run dry, the game can now be played. However, clock based events will no longer occur.
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Dullahan
31 Oct 2015, 18:35 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 17:41 PMKreatiir


Crossing? Hell no.
Road to Kharkov? Hell no. Better go for Minsk then.


What's wrong with them?

Minsk is far worse than either because of how congested the center of the map is.

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Basilone
31 Oct 2015, 19:25 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 17:55 PMluvnest
Actually it's just Rifle Company. It's the definition of P2W if you ask me. Lose faction selection, lose the game. Arnhem is beautiful, love the map.

Relic must atone for their sins. Don't care if its their fault or Sega's, we were lied to either way and that's all that matters.

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AmiPolizeiFunk
31 Oct 2015, 20:14 PM
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Axis won both G1 and G2 of OCF Finals on Arnhem (Rifle Company was banned).
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AngryKitten465
31 Oct 2015, 20:21 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 20:14 PMAmiPolizeiFunk
Axis won both G1 and G2 of OCF Finals on Arnhem (Rifle Company was banned).


Well we narrowed it down then, we need to either ban riflecompany forever, or remove Arnhem Checkpoint from map pools :)
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.

It feels handicapped from the start


No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
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AngryKitten465
31 Oct 2015, 20:35 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 19:25 PMBasilone

Relic must atone for their sins. Don't care if its their fault or Sega's, we were lied to either way and that's all that matters.



Lol, scumbags
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.

It feels handicapped from the start


No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
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RMMLz
31 Oct 2015, 21:04 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 20:21 PMAngryKitten465


Well we narrowed it down then, we need to either ban riflecompany forever, or remove Arnhem Checkpoint from map pools :)


Option 1.

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elchino7
31 Oct 2015, 22:04 PM
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The problem is the commander, not the map.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.

Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.

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ferwiner
31 Oct 2015, 22:20 PM
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the problem is combination of commander and map, why cant organiser bann a commander only on one map? I think they should.

Ofc this commander is also OP on semoisky but it is broken with every commander.
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Existant
31 Oct 2015, 22:28 PM
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We're just glad to run tourney's for the community. We understand the feedback and will take it in. :)
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AngryKitten465
31 Oct 2015, 23:49 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Oct 2015, 22:28 PMExistant
We're just glad to run tourney's for the community. We understand the feedback and will take it in. :)


It is not solely directed at your tournament, just in general. I loved your tournament and also the pershing video!
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.

It feels handicapped from the start


No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
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