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that's more to ability than just price.
the penal satchel cost 45 munition, same as the okw flame nade's "adjusted" price. There's no doubt the satchel is/was powerful, but at the same time it's also one of the easiest ability to dodge.
the okw flame nade is broken because it's almost undodgeable. Price alone does not excuse that face.
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then lower the price to 15, and give it same throw time, i am down to that.
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Its avoidable and usually predicatable when it's going to be thrown. It's expensive to use in terms of one less mine and more time away from a shreck. Also, if you allow it to be thrown on an MG, it's typically your fault.
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They are ridiculous, they should have a timer like normal nades.
Also, if you allow it to be thrown on an MG, it's typically your fault.
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Its only 30 munitions and most allied Hmgs do not suppress enough. You can run straight at it and throw the nade from a huge distance.
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Flame dots get nerfed, so keep your pitchforks down guys
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At that point require OKW to buy it from base like the bazooka rack or molotov.
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They already require to tech for it, that is for a fuel starved faction. They just need to increase the throwing animation time.
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You mean the tech cost that is included due to OKW starting with 40 fuel? Rightio..
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"Flame Damage Over time
We are increasing the time per tick for damage over time. This will include all incendiary abilities, Molotov’s, and flamer dots that vehicles leave behind. The tick in game time should translate to about 1 second real time which should help player gauge the amount of damage they will take if they choose to stand in the fire.
Damage frequency reduced from 0.5 to 1.25
Dot radius increased from 3 to 5"
And how exactly is this a nerf to incendiary grenades?
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As far as I understand (please somebody correct me when I say now total bullshit, because I'm not too sure about it):
Before you had damage coming in this intervall: 0.5 sec 1 sec 1.5 sec 2 sec 2.5 sec. etc..
Now its like this: 1.25 sec 2.5 sec 3.75 sec 5 sec
So instead of 5 dot ticks you will have 2 dot ticks after 2.5 seconds. That's a severe damage nerf ~60 %. Radius really doesn't matter that much once you micro your units out of the flames.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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That is pretty much how I understand it as well.
This might balance the flame damage, but make sov incendiary barrage irrelevant.
Molotovs, inc nades and MHT inc round should end up fine after the change.
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You mean the tech cost that is included due to OKW starting with 40 fuel? Rightio..
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They already require to tech for it, that is for a fuel starved faction. They just need to increase the throwing animation time.
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Lets also consider that the OKW start with AI, AT, and suppression platform and then further access to more AT and AI and free grenade when they upgrade. Allies must delay and sacrifice building their T1 or T2 if going for grenades and rely solely infantry if choosing grenades during their opening. At 27muni the US grenade is also nowhere even near the effectiveness of a flame grenade.
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