with requirement brit_17_pounder_hold_full:
Reload -33%
Horizontal speed *2
Alright then.
Was convinced it was just the flare.
Pak 43 shooting through buildings
13 Oct 2015, 13:25 PM
#21
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Alright then.
Was convinced it was just the flare.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
13 Oct 2015, 13:25 PM
#22
Posts: 341
This is an intended feature, not a bug.
The sandbags that spawn with it provide no cover at all , u think that is a bug or what?
13 Oct 2015, 13:49 PM
#23
Posts: 273
Its apsurd, players have started building pak emplacments behind buildings to protect them as they can shoot through every building.
Fix asap please.
It doesnt have free "i m god" ability like brits emplacements. So people need to protect it in such way
13 Oct 2015, 15:08 PM
#24
Posts: 118
QF17 cost 400 MP and 75 FU got brace, and can be garrisoned to be more effective
PAK cost 600 MP, no brace, no garrison
Axis don't always have the "best stuff"
You're kidding, right ? QF17 is shit. It misses like 50% of its shots, dies to a single incendiary grenade and costs 20 pop and 70 fuel. I'll take Pak 43 over this crap any day.
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13 Oct 2015, 15:27 PM
#25
Posts: 1653
I've had games where I had to fully baby shit the pak43 because it got decrewed all the time. So no god unit. Although it's a very good unit
13 Oct 2015, 18:54 PM
#26
Posts: 166
Currently cool allied stuff:
Churchill Crocodile, Centaur, Air Superiority, Flamer Rifles, Pak Howie
SU needs cool stuff.
13 Oct 2015, 18:59 PM
#27
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
It's all about first engagement.
With hide it and set a trap.
Usually after first usage of Pak43, it already paid for itself.
After first time, decent enemy will stay out of the range so it is crucial to make the best possible use in the first engagement.
Once I was able to knock out IS2 in 9secs in 1v1 thanks to hidden pak43
With hide it and set a trap.
Usually after first usage of Pak43, it already paid for itself.
After first time, decent enemy will stay out of the range so it is crucial to make the best possible use in the first engagement.
Once I was able to knock out IS2 in 9secs in 1v1 thanks to hidden pak43
13 Oct 2015, 19:45 PM
#28
Posts: 1484
Pak 43 shooting through buildings is incredibly stupid, especially the fact that you can place it immediately right behind the building.
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13 Oct 2015, 21:09 PM
#29
Posts: 315
It shoots through groves of trees, too, that other units cannot. I never liked the ability it could shoot through both, especially on the building rich maps that promotes the camping nature (MGs in houses, ISGs in back, which means you can't flank with men and with the Pak 43 shooting through buildings, you can't get the tanks in.)
13 Oct 2015, 21:24 PM
#30
1 Posts: 77
we should probably remove infantry too, those bastards can shoot behind cover!!!!@ BEHIND rework please!~!!!!!
I'm really "good" at video games.
13 Oct 2015, 22:19 PM
#31
Posts: 473
Permanently BannedEven a summer breeze can decrew it, its fine.
Whenever I face USF as OKW, it feels like I have been strapped down into a mental hospital wheelchair, with legs that can't reach the floor to move myself forward and a nurse is trying to move the wheelchair backwards whilst I have to race a formula one car for a best of three laps.
It feels handicapped from the start
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It feels handicapped from the start
No thumbs, cute and a lot of furry fluffiness, I am the ultimate kitten and by the heavens, am I angry!
13 Oct 2015, 22:26 PM
#32
Posts: 7
srsly, the game is made to be as realistic as possible with the real fog of war,winter effects and everything, and then pak43 can shoot through buildings..am i the only one here that thinks this is crazy ??
13 Oct 2015, 22:38 PM
#33
Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1
srsly, the game is made to be as realistic as possible with the real fog of war,winter effects and everything, and then pak43 can shoot through buildings..am i the only one here that thinks this is crazy ??
+1 everything in this game is so realistic except pak43
14 Oct 2015, 02:15 AM
#34
Posts: 622
Also Pak43 can be decrew by snipers, nades, any AI infantry to shooting at it, and steal for themselves, so easy to kill the crew also, the crew won't heal themselves if wounded, and can't refill dead crew member themselves, while 17 pounder, when you able to decrew it, it is usually 1 hit from destruction which won't be worth it to steal it. (I steal a OKW pak43 before and used it to destroy 3 HQs and 2 tanks )
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14 Oct 2015, 02:17 AM
#35
Posts: 315
If it's so fragile, let the player defend it, rather than abuse a nuance. FFS, why can't ALL AT guns fire through buildings and tree groves then? They're just as "fragile", aren't they? Good for the goose, good for the gander.
14 Oct 2015, 06:28 AM
#36
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
Yes, remove the ability to shot through buildings, but then it should one-shot any allied tank. Deal?
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
14 Oct 2015, 06:32 AM
#37
Posts: 1653
Being able to shoot through buildings is the only thing the PaK43 has going for it. Even then, neither I nor any high skilled players I watch ever build it since there are soooo many units and abilities that wipe kill it or decrew it. Unit is fine. Feature intended.
I have to agree with you if you're talking about Ostheer. As OKW you're having 90% of the time enough MP to rebuild one. Even had a game ehere I had in the middle my med HQ and on both side a Pak43. No tank is coming through Kappa
14 Oct 2015, 08:00 AM
#38
Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2
I have to agree with you if you're talking about Ostheer. As OKW you're having 90% of the time enough MP to rebuild one. Even had a game ehere I had in the middle my med HQ and on both side a Pak43. No tank is coming through Kappa
Once on Moscow Outskirts, late game was truly insane. Pure spam od USF and SU mediums.
We did not have enough fuel to stand agasint them but hey! I was ale to build 6 paks43 through entire game
Even tho that each pak lived only for 2-4mins, it was enough to pay for itself.
That OKW Pak43 spam
14 Oct 2015, 08:03 AM
#39
Posts: 1653
Once on Moscow Outskirts, late game was truly insane. Pure spam od USF and SU mediums.
We did not have enough fuel to stand agasint them but hey! I was ale to build 6 paks43 through entire game
Even tho that each pak lived only for 2-4mins, it was enough to pay for itself.
That OKW Pak43 spam
Indeed, Pak43 is very accessable for OKW, for Ostheer it's a bit different.
14 Oct 2015, 08:20 AM
#40
Posts: 670
Yes, remove the ability to shot through buildings, but then it should one-shot any allied tank. Deal?
Sure. Just remove brace from 17pounder and make it one-shot any axis tank.
I myself bought 14 OKW factions during a Steam sale last year for alt accounts
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