[AXIS] [All modes] [PIV should be on par with Ez8/t3485]

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 14:08 PMKatitof

Yes.
Press F1 and H at the start of the game.

Then, when you're about to lose a squad or are facing superior force you can press T.

Both of these little tricks allow you to save tremendous amounts of menpower against USF.

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 14:19 PMbert69

Is there some cheat or something that allows players to have a brain?

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 15:13 PMZyllen

Its a valid question. and you just went full katitof. Never go full katitof bro. 2 paks + high teching cost means you are not going to have enough grens + mg's to deal with the riiflemen. So your argument is just terrible.

1 p4 + 2 paks is just much much as an ass pull if say i will easily counter it with 1 sherman and 4 57 mm's

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 15:33 PMbert69

I don't know what game mode you're playing, but whenever i play wehrmacht, i queue up an at gun by 9-10 minutes, maybe i need more grens, maybe i need more pios, whatever it is. I have a pak gun by 9-10 minutes, unless you're blobbing 6 grens running them in red cover and still losing fights and you didn't bother making a med bunker, there is no way you are getting bled that hard to the point of not being able to get even one Pak40 out.

But the point of the matter is, the p4 already comes at the same time as a regular sherman(assuming map control is even) and often with pak support, why make it even earlier, and make tank rushes even quicker than they already are? USF tech tree got delayed to make sherman rushes not as viable, why reverse it for Ostheer?

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 06:58 AMEsxile

USF has worst AT than Oshteer, what's wrong with that? Didn't see any stuglike at 80 fuel in the USF arsenal so far.
UKF has no snare to help the cromwell in the fight.

Reducing the Fuel price will simply put the Pz4 on the field faster than any counter part. It is why the sherman has been buffed in first hand. Both unit are hitting the field around the same time today.

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 14:08 PMKatitof

Yes.
Press F1 and H at the start of the game.

Then, when you're about to lose a squad or are facing superior force you can press T.

Both of these little tricks allow you to save tremendous amounts of menpower against USF.

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 17:04 PMKubelecer

Let me compare this stock vehicle to a doctrine vehicle, that will show those fanbois!

lelic wtf td balance elefant 600 armor jackson 60 armor wht happen to balcne !!

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 17:55 PMMr. Someguy

Didn't know the Elefant was 15 fuel more than the M36.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 23:25 PMMr. Someguy

What about Fuel Caches though? Other territory? Anecdotes with little info don't help us.

British: 405+ Fuel: 255 for all Tech, 50 for AEC ~100 for Cromwell, ? for Universal Carrier.
German: 365 Fuel: 190 for Tech, 20 for 222, 30 for 251, 125 for Panzer IV.

Jump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 16:53 PMAlexzandvar

Uh, USF has the M10 which is basically a StuG with AP shells for increased pen, far better mobility and retains 50 range on a turret. If we want to play this game then Ostheer has no light tanks that can stunlock enemy vehicles.

If you put the PIV at 115 fuel it will be fine because Ostheer still needs to overcome the light vehicle phase of the game, which isn't easy and typically requires investment into a 222 or HT. Saying we should count BAR's and Nades in teching is assuming an Ostheer player will neglect any light vehicle play.

UKF also has tons of shit Ostheer doesn't have, so this argument makes no sense because we are comparing medium tanks not the entire faction.