Those stupid leiG spam

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 16:36 PMAlexzandvar

Despite the ISG OP (I agree it's overpreforming for cost) OKW's win rate has continued to fall off into nothing both in the automatch and OCF despite 2 hotfix's so far so I think there is actually some serious problems that need to be addressed.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 18:52 PMWrath

Lol

Axis is on the bottom of every team game win/loss stat, significantly below the average.

Nerf LEIG!! What a joke. The unit isn't completely useless anymore and has a direct mirror to it so its OP? What?

OKW gets a counter vs emplacements - NERF IT
OKW gets a counter vs units in buildings - NERF IT

So ridiculous.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 17:52 PMREforever

It's pretty easy to deal with ISG's especially in 1v1's; you just have to flank and keep your units moving.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 17:52 PMREforever

The ISG is keeping OKW viable in the competitive scene, so nerfing it would effectively send the OKW into obscurity and it'll end up being a faction no one will play except for me and a number of other people.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 18:18 PMTin Pigeon

Thats why the instapin of the LeIG is so annoying. You cant flank it when your troops are pinned down.

Thats true. Nerfing the LeIG without buffing the factions Infantry is not a good idea. But right now the LeIG is a viable resource for the OKW to freeze an allied push and creep slowly forward until the better OKW tanks can roll out. And its really a unit you just buy and barely put any micro in it. You just put it next to your MedHQ or FlakHQ and take all the points in its range while its autoattacking and aoutopinning every unit while killing half the models of a squad on a direct hit.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 18:41 PMREforever

You won't get instant pinned though if you keep moving. Leigs can't pin your troops and can't get shots off if you keep moving, flanking and generally putting pressure on your opponent. I would know since I've faced off against a fair number of OKW players holding out for ISG's to save them, and every time all I had to do was keep moving and flank them.

It's a pretty easy unit to counter, but people are used to the ISG being completely useless and not doing anything. ISG's are beatable, the problem is that a lot of 2v2, 3v3 and 4v4 players refuse to adapt to the meta changes.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 17:34 PMKeaper!

Dude we get it, you've spread the message and preached the gospel of Axis underperforming in every reply to every thread that has come up since the patch and hotfix. Most reasonable people agree tweaks/changes are needed and I'm sure Relic has access to much better metrics and are well aware of the discrepancy. We don't need to hear it from you 35 times.

EDIT: Why not create a "Win rate in current patch" thread and keep it all there? Would be easier than repeating yourself endlessly or injecting it into every other thread.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 17:52 PMREforever

I've played a number of 2v2 UKF's and 1v1's, and the fact is that the ISG is pretty balanced and in a good spot. Alll of my losses in 2v2 ranked for UKF weren't lost because of OKW and ISG's but because of Wehrmacht players. It's pretty easy to deal with ISG's especially in 1v1's; you just have to flank and keep your units moving.

The ISG is keeping OKW viable in the competitive scene, so nerfing it would effectively send the OKW into obscurity and it'll end up being a faction no one will play except for me and a number of other people.

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 20:04 PMEtherealDragon

That's fine in theory but 2+ ISG + Med Truck + Flak Truck. No amount of flanking will save you. Want to counter it with artillery? ISG shoots farther than everything else. Once dug in they require very minimal effort and that's the problem. Doesn't help that USF and Brits have few artillery options to begin with. Secondly if you DO get hit the suppression lasts long enough for 2nd and 3rd shots to land and due to the high accuracy now its basically an auto-retreat.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 00:09 AMNinjaWJ

spekaing of axis winrates in 4v4.....

everyone is crying that axis need buffs now that they have lower win rates in team games.

funny thing is, months ago when OKW and Ost had winrates of 80% and higher, it was considered normal lol. People who are now complaining that Axis needs buffs because of teamgames, are the same ones defending their absurd winrates months ago

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 00:09 AMNinjaWJ

spekaing of axis winrates in 4v4.....

everyone is crying that axis need buffs now that they have lower win rates in team games.

funny thing is, months ago when OKW and Ost had winrates of 80% and higher, it was considered normal lol. People who are now complaining that Axis needs buffs because of teamgames, are the same ones defending their absurd winrates months ago

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 00:09 AMNinjaWJ

spekaing of axis winrates in 4v4.....

everyone is crying that axis need buffs now that they have lower win rates in team games.

funny thing is, months ago when OKW and Ost had winrates of 80% and higher, it was considered normal lol. People who are now complaining that Axis needs buffs because of teamgames, are the same ones defending their absurd winrates months ago

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 04:25 AMArclyte

nah dude, those 80%+ winrates and constant 90% population were just due to axis being "cooler". The germans had awesome uniforms, after all.

Now that the axis are rocking 60% winrates, the sky is falling.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 04:41 AMAlexzandvar

40%*