Those stupid leiG spam

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 02:27 AMColdtanks

So your argument for everything is 'doesn't count'.

Think about it for a second, most of the banned stuff is ally related. In a tournament where most of the OP ally stuff is banned, allies are still dominating, auto match doesn't even have the luxury of being able to ban all the OP ally stuff.

So again how is Leig OP if allies are dominating so hard?

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 03:00 AMEtherealDragon

How is "Allies are dominating so ISG isn't overperforming" a valid arguement? I mean come on... ISG can't singlehandedly turn the tide of the overall meta balance. If anything the Con/Rifle Vet 3 buff is contributing more to that. Not to mention all those people abusing the Vickers Bug or soon to be nerfed Rifle Company Flamethrower.

ISG just needs to be toned down. Slight scatter increase, replace Vet 1 Bonus with Smoke barrage. Maybe increase Barrage timer and/or shell speed so that squads and emplacements stop getting nonstop hammered. I understand people not wanting it nerfed to the ground (because Relic neeeever overreacts) but its definitely overbuffed now. OKW-Brit dynamic really needs looking at too because the current ISG-turtling on both sides dynamic is not fun at all.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 18:28 PMImagelessbean

Gun was close to over performing, or was arguably over performing before. Current buffs make it just that much better.

As a reminder to everyone saying "Look at the Pak Howie", Pak Howie comes much later. The ISG, can on some maps, be your 3rd built unit and it is designed this way so that you can start to punish weapon team spam. It is also in a faction with MP float, which the US rarely if ever has. On top of that it is in a faction with cheap and plentiful AT so there is limited chance to hit the guns early with light vehicles. AND, wait there's more, it comes in a faction with FHQ which heals and reinforces so the gun is nigh impossible to kill by ranged units, which always have a shorter range and must come under its fire to attempt to hit it. Even when decrewed, volks can rapidly recrew for cheap. Its range allows it to shell so far back that even if you do decrew it you will never be able to limp the gun back to your lines before your enemy catches up and kills the capturing infantry, if you even have a squad with more than 3 men when you manage to finish off the crew.

Med to ISG is no brainer right now, and that speaks to how much this unit is over performing.

Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2015, 06:27 AMPorygon

Holyshit, I am talking about LeiG spam up to 5 or even 7, and it is solely happening in team-games.

Dafug how is it related to OCF which is a 1v1 tournament?
1 LeiG is fine, 2 is manageable, 4 is pain in the ass, above 5 is bloody hell.


Please, switch on your brain before it rusts.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 08:54 AMJadame!

This cancerous pudding should be nerfed into nothingness.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 08:54 AMJadame!

This cancerous pudding should be nerfed into nothingness. ISGS hit with every shot and they pin with every shot. It takes 0 skill to use them and it impossible to counter them with infantry. Who the fok thought that turning infantry-based game into arty snorefest was a good idea?

I am sick of playing against isg spam. They are worst thing happen to coh since hmg walls.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 09:33 AMatouba

I mean,does the Leig and pack howitzers really need the pin if the bigger ones like lefh 105 or ml120 don't have a pin to infantry.
just remove the pin then these 2 units are in a good position.Maybe slightly scatter needed for the Leig.Just bring them in line with mortars.