Cons are not the most liable late game infantry in the game they lack the upgrades and vet to be competitive in the late game like all the other factions. Grens great long range infantry with lmg42s and rifle nades and good vet. rifle man have smoke grenades, grenades, bars, zooks. Tommies have medpaks, arty support, brens, piats, and 5 man squads. Volks have 5 levels of vet, panzershreks, and grenades. Cons have molos, b ut thats getting nerfed and at nades. Both are very expansive upgrades that requires fuel that delays tech. Cons should have the same amount of versatility other factions havewant i want to propose is this.
Soviets get 3 weapon racks, ppsh, ptrs, dp28. the dp28 is doctrinal and the ppsh and the ptrs are unlocked with a tech thats 150mp/ and 25 fuel, the dp28 unlocks with guard docs at 3 cp and the Molotov and the at nade are in one upgrade for 150mp/ 25 fuel. the ppsh and ptrs will both be 50 muntions and the dp28 is 75 munitions. this way soviets wont be be forced holed in to using elite infantry every game and cons won't get stomped by vet 3 uber grens and vet 5 okw infantry
Making conscripts more liable late game
14 Sep 2015, 16:33 PM
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14 Sep 2015, 16:41 PM
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And less efficient early game...
14 Sep 2015, 16:47 PM
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And less efficient early game...
By your very own logic, lolcake, we should nerf grenadiers.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
14 Sep 2015, 16:49 PM
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Permanently BannedId rather penals have a late game role
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
14 Sep 2015, 16:54 PM
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nerf grenadiers.
+1.
They must cost 280/35. Or nerfed significantly.
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14 Sep 2015, 16:55 PM
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Id rather penals have a late game role
I prefer to remove them
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14 Sep 2015, 16:59 PM
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Want cons for late game ? Get vickers Keepo
14 Sep 2015, 17:00 PM
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The recent preview patch buff to cons will make them in the top 5 for most survivable units in the game, so their late game potential will be basically that of pre-nerf Volks, ultra survivable infantry to keep map control and hold the line.
(If your wondering they will have 0.502194 Rec Acc at Vet 3).
(If your wondering they will have 0.502194 Rec Acc at Vet 3).
14 Sep 2015, 17:08 PM
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Liable? To who? 
14 Sep 2015, 17:09 PM
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Id rather penals have a late game role
I myself bought 14 OKW factions during a Steam sale last year for alt accounts
14 Sep 2015, 17:10 PM
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The recent preview patch buff to cons will make them in the top 5 for most survivable units in the game, so their late game potential will be basically that of pre-nerf Volks, ultra survivable infantry to keep map control and hold the line.
(If your wondering they will have 0.502194 Rec Acc at Vet 3).
And still hit like they were using NERF guns.
I would also love to know how your math of multiplying 1.09 by 0.6 resulted with that you've got instead of 0.65.
Really alex, decide already from which end of you the crap will come out, it can't go out of both sides of digestive system constantly, so please, stop spitting shit all the time.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
14 Sep 2015, 17:16 PM
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this gonna be great
14 Sep 2015, 17:20 PM
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Whats the point of this thread when cons already perform fine and are getting a neat surviability buff?
inb4 hurrdurr cons up, I don't think I've ever seen soviets struggling nor having major problems except when obers were retarded.
inb4 hurrdurr cons up, I don't think I've ever seen soviets struggling nor having major problems except when obers were retarded.
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14 Sep 2015, 17:28 PM
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And still hit like they were using NERF guns.
I would also love to know how your math of multiplying 1.09 by 0.6 resulted with that you've got instead of 0.65.
Really alex, decide already from which end of you the crap will come out, it can't go out of both sides of digestive system constantly, so please, stop spitting shit all the time.
Vet 0: 1.087
Vet 2: 0.83699
Vet 3: .502
At vet 2 they get -23% and -40% at vet 3 in the new patch
14 Sep 2015, 17:51 PM
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And still hit like they were using NERF guns.
I would also love to know how your math of multiplying 1.09 by 0.6 resulted with that you've got instead of 0.65.
Really alex, decide already from which end of you the crap will come out, it can't go out of both sides of digestive system constantly, so please, stop spitting shit all the time.
B*tch pls.
On topic; cons need better DPS....they'll still melt in front of LMG grens and Obers/Falls with their 0.5 or whatever received accuracy.
14 Sep 2015, 17:59 PM
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Vet 0: 1.087
Vet 2: 0.83699
Vet 3: .502
At vet 2 they get -23% and -40% at vet 3 in the new patch
Conscripts
Veterancy 2
+25% Range on Molotov
+40% Accuracy
Care to bring out patch note saying that have changed?
I wonder which unit have values you're talking about.
Oh right!
This one:
Riflemen
vet1 Unlocks AT Rifle grenade
vet2 -23% received accuracy -20% weapon cooldown
But its hardly soviet mainline infantry.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
14 Sep 2015, 18:20 PM
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Id rather penals have a late game role
14 Sep 2015, 18:23 PM
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Buff to Cons ain't going to happen. Also, as a Soviet player, I'm opposed to such idea. Soviet have different ways of dealing with enemy than Cons + access to Elite units. Cons are meat shield in the same way Volks will always be. Good for screening your other units + some utility.
14 Sep 2015, 18:32 PM
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Conscripts
Veterancy 2
+25% Range on Molotov
+40% Accuracy
Care to bring out patch note saying that have changed?
I wonder which unit have values you're talking about.
Oh right!
This one:
Riflemen
vet1 Unlocks AT Rifle grenade
vet2 -23% received accuracy -20% weapon cooldown
But its hardly soviet mainline infantry.
Apologies, but regardless the .6 multiplication of Rec Acc for Vet 3 cons in the new patch will still make them very, very survivable. So honestly my point is still made, cons don't really need anything else now that the PPsh and Molotov was buffed.
Also stop acting like a child, it's embarrassing.
14 Sep 2015, 18:33 PM
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PPSH upgrade should be a stock upgrade when teching up, and 'Hit The Dirt!' ability should be gained on vet 1 or 2
DP-28 upgrade should replace the PPSH upgrade in commander abilities.
DP-28 upgrade should replace the PPSH upgrade in commander abilities.
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