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3 Sep 2015, 11:06 AM
#141
avatar of The amazing Chandler

Posts: 1355



DOT = Damage over time

So they increased the time it takes for flamers to deal max damage vs static units, from 3 to 20 sec.

So if flamer damage is for example 100, the the DPS looks like 5, 10, 15, etc. instead of 33 66 100 (3sec)

Someone correct me if im wrong pls :clap:




No, they just made it last longer, they didn't nerf the total damage. DoT damage is per second, or atleast should be, but it's relic so who knows :romeoPro:


I still dont get it :( but thanks guys!!!

3 Sep 2015, 11:14 AM
#142
avatar of Array
Donator 11

Posts: 609





I still dont get it :( but thanks guys!!!



I think what theyre trying to say (though I may be wrong) is that flames keep burning and inflicting damage for 20s rather than 3.

Any non infantry flames will basically set fire to the map / building for 20s continually doing damage.

To balance this elsewhere in the notes the damage per second has been reduced (i think) so in the short term they hurt less but if you don't move (or get your mg out the building) the units will take a lot more damage from a flame burst than previous. Its essentially an anti garrison and area denial tool rather than instant killer
3 Sep 2015, 11:29 AM
#143
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

I liked the fact that Volksgrenadiers used a "normal" Stielhandgrenade.


Same here, I think the incendiary grenade should have gone to Sturmpioneers.
3 Sep 2015, 11:41 AM
#144
avatar of Array
Donator 11

Posts: 609

Question on the flames - it says the longer dot is not on infantry weapons. Do we think molotovs and incendiary grenades count as this -a 20 s molotov would make them relevant again burning mgs out of buildings and denying green cover to grens
3 Sep 2015, 12:47 PM
#145
avatar of Nabarxos

Posts: 392

M2HB .50 cal buffs :D FINALLY :D
3 Sep 2015, 12:55 PM
#146
avatar of Spielführer

Posts: 320



Same here, I think the incendiary grenade should have gone to Sturmpioneers.

absofuckinglutely
3 Sep 2015, 13:06 PM
#147
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

I truly hope incendiary nade will have same throw animation and range as lolotov :sibHyena:
After all, you'll find most axis only players agreeing that lolotov is sine, so they won't have anything against inc nade being the same for volks :sibPheasant:
3 Sep 2015, 13:12 PM
#148
avatar of EtherealDragon

Posts: 1890 | Subs: 1

Okay, thx Relic. You have completely sealed off Soviet Urban Tactic, early at grenade against kubel and molotov against mg with these changes.


You don't really need early AT grenades anymore, with the cheaper Special Rifle command you can easily get a Clown Car for Kubel at start and then back tech for Support Weapons when you want need them. Soviets are losing 30 starting fuel but the cost to get both Tier 1 and 2 is going from a current total of 90 fuel to only 30.

Pretty cool IMO because it lets you more easily incorporate Snipers into your build order which can help with MGs too.

3 Sep 2015, 13:56 PM
#149
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

I think the ml-20 needs some buffs at this point. It's inferior to the LeFH ine very way. i think a damage buff to 240 or 200 would be a good idea.
3 Sep 2015, 15:14 PM
#150
avatar of Tristan44

Posts: 915

The self sight on the elefant and isu is so unwanted.. What's the purpose?? I don't get it :/
3 Sep 2015, 15:19 PM
#151
avatar of Array
Donator 11

Posts: 609

The self sight on the elefant and isu is so unwanted.. What's the purpose?? I don't get it :/


do you mean the removal of the self sight?
3 Sep 2015, 15:24 PM
#152
avatar of Colonel0tto
Donator 11

Posts: 147

Elephants are just too good against Brits :/ I don't think it's an awful change.
3 Sep 2015, 15:25 PM
#153
avatar of Spanky
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Posts: 1820 | Subs: 2

The self sight on the elefant and isu is so unwanted.. What's the purpose?? I don't get it :/


The purpose is that now you need to scout for the unit, which makes it harder to use. Before the ISU could just scout for itself and that awards camping.
3 Sep 2015, 15:35 PM
#154
3 Sep 2015, 15:49 PM
#155
avatar of nigo
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Posts: 2238 | Subs: 15

IT´S A FAKE



Oh really? :sibPheasant:


Omega Warrior spotted that pages ago.
3 Sep 2015, 15:54 PM
#156
avatar of spam.r33k

Posts: 503

you all have been missing the greatest change in this patch:





overall great patch!
i been complaining about 12 popcap for a 80 fuel unit (t34/85) since they changed soviet teching
now it finally can be spammed like its suppossed to be
3 Sep 2015, 16:03 PM
#157
avatar of drChengele
Patrion 14

Posts: 640 | Subs: 1

The Granatwerfer change, is it a barrage change or the "normal" autofire change? If the latter then it's fine by me.
3 Sep 2015, 17:20 PM
#158
avatar of MoerserKarL
Donator 22

Posts: 1108

jump backJump back to quoted post3 Sep 2015, 15:25 PMSpanky


The purpose is that now you need to scout for the unit, which makes it harder to use. Before the ISU could just scout for itself and that awards camping.


and what happend to the spotting scope?
3 Sep 2015, 18:28 PM
#159
avatar of Qbix

Posts: 254

Very nice changes overall. Im happy and looking forward to the results.
3 Sep 2015, 18:30 PM
#160
avatar of Tristan44

Posts: 915

^^.. I just didn't think that was needed. The focus made the heavy painfully slow so it had it's negatives
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