WTF is this argument? You can't just claim one unit is vetted and another isn't to prove your point. Does that mean that since a vet 2 Ostheer P4 has the same armor as a stock OKW P4, the Ostheer P4 has the same armor stats?
If you are proven wrong, just admit it FFS.
This is a straight up lie. The firefly had a similar turret rotation to a Tiger vet 0. If you are complaining about the Panther's turn rate, you have obviously never fought nor used one, when comparing it to other heavys and mediums.
And the Firefly is about 30 fuel cheaper than the Panther, has the HP and armor of a Sherman, 240 damage with long reload (lowest TD DPS) and 60 range. If you can kill a Sherman with a Panther, you should never struggle versus a Firefly.
Like seriously, don't spread bullshit on these forums please.
They upped the cost of the FF to 175 (now they might have reverted it in the mean time, I don't know) because literally everyone was using it all the time. It preformed fairly well for that high cost. Obviously they reduced it's reload from 12 to 9 in the interim since the Alpha.
If you want to compare the FF has a DPS of 26 to the OKW Panthers DPS of 21 and Ostheer Panther's DPS of 24. I can't look up the FF's turn rate atm, but
Also if you want to get picky about the stats he's posting, most mediums and lights have a horizontal turret traverse speed of 40 or above, the Panther has 33.
If the FF has Tiger tracking speed, it would make no sense as the traverse speed for TD's and TH's is between 30 -> 36. It's probably similar to one of the Sherman variants.
Also the FF didn't have Sherman armor, it has the armor of an Easy Eight. Now this doesn't represent an issue for the Panther, which will always pen, but if the FF get's the first shot off as the Panther is approach it then the FF will win. Were the FF got problematic was it was basically a Jackson with Easy Eight armor (thus able to bounce PIV shots and occasionally other things at max range).
Don't accuse me of "spreading bullshit" if you care about civil discussion. Especially since I put a fair amount of effort into my posts and fact check and test most of what I preach.