Ammo conversion needs to go

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 07:45 AMKatitof

Make it soviet industry way, constant muni increase for constant fuel decrease

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 07:45 AMKatitof

Make it soviet industry way, constant muni increase for constant fuel decrease

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 07:45 AMKatitof

Make it soviet industry way, constant muni increase for constant fuel decrease

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 11:10 AMnee

How about instead of immediate 50F->120M, it instead deducts 50F and adds 120M over like 15-20 seconds? Would get the same result, but you don't immediately gain the benefits, plus the cooldown only starts after the ability is finished.

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 11:10 AMnee

How about instead of immediate 50F->120M, it instead deducts 50F and adds 120M over like 15-20 seconds? Would get the same result, but you don't immediately gain the benefits, plus the cooldown only starts after the ability is finished.

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 11:10 AMnee

How about instead of immediate 50F->120M, it instead deducts 50F and adds 120M over like 15-20 seconds? Would get the same result, but you don't immediately gain the benefits, plus the cooldown only starts after the ability is finished.

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 11:10 AMnee

How about instead of immediate 50F->120M, it instead deducts 50F and adds 120M over like 15-20 seconds? Would get the same result, but you don't immediately gain the benefits, plus the cooldown only starts after the ability is finished.

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 21:26 PMMr. Someguy

This is the best idea I've read so far, it'd make CAS take more planning and wouldn't hurt Osttruppen Doctrine much.

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 22:05 PMMidconflict

The only problem is that it still promotes blobing. This would work if the ability only gave 60 ammo (fuel cost would be lower), or the conversion had a really high cool down like 60 sec to 120 sec. Again if you just give the OST player a lot of ammo he will bolb grends and shocks (the problem, and what COH2 player said they don't want in this game). Remember it's not the straff that are the problem anymore, and in fact if CAS didn't have the convesion in it the commander would be balanced (Granded no use, just like NKVD for the some reason of having nothing but ammo abilities). It is the conversion that that ruins the game. The blobing is what needs to stop, and the only way to do this with CAS is to slow down the ammo income enough to were the OST needs something else to deal with problem, rather then just using blobs with upgrades and straffs. The problem with CAS is the same problem Windustry had when it first came out. The doctrine its self was fine on paper till it met the faction. For the soviets it was fast t70s, for CAS it is the blobs. I am sorry to say it but CAS just may need to die like Windistry, I would like it not to but I see no other way than changing the OST faction as a whole. Which is not going to happen.

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 11:10 AMnee

How about instead of immediate 50F->120M, it instead deducts 50F and adds 120M over like 15-20 seconds? Would get the same result, but you don't immediately gain the benefits, plus the cooldown only starts after the ability is finished.

Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 07:21 AMMidconflict

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Jump back to quoted post21 Aug 2015, 22:57 PM__deleted__

THe Ost player will spam shocks? That is a typo man come on. Sheck

Gren blobs will get lmgs just fine without ammo conversion. The problem is no that the Grnds get the LMGs but that they get the LMG faster (to fast), and the OST can still spam, Call-in, Mines, grands, and Shreck. This is the problem.

The problem is, like someone already stated, the immediate fuel to ammo transfer.getting the ammo at all in a faster fashion is the problem, and why this is a problem i have just stated.

Apart from this, riflemen blobs is about everything I have ever seen from USF players. Do they have some ammo conversion that pushes them to blobs as well? [b]One USF is not apart of this topic, but just to make a point like i said, if the OST player spams LMGS then they shouldn't have ammo to do other things, like every USF player who spams. Blobing is bad no mater which side dose it. These are other issues for another topic

Ah the conversion ruins the entire game? Sure thing, sounds solid. A normal person would take this as sarcasm, me on the other had see this as hope. I will now pray to RN Jesus that you see the light

Blobbing is of course what every Ost player does.. All factions can bolb end of story. Just as many allies players bolb as axis. the only difference is that axis can get away with it better, and more often. Again this is not the point of this thread. If you want to continue this debate we can make a new one.

The last part makes absolutely no sense. You are acting like CAS is ruining the entire game and making Ostheer super duper op.Plz read OP then the other posts, then my post

It seems you have forgotten the fact that CAS was nerfed pretty harshly a few patches ago.you lost 30 ammo (150 to 120) on the conversion, and your straffs had a 1 sec or so wind up time. Huge nerf

The strafes come in way later, it is easy to dodge them now, even with your infantry.Again please read what i said about the straff.

The only thing that is annoying about CAS is the way the transfer goes. It should be a gradual transfer, not an immediate one, Like i said it promotes bad game play (blobing), and if conversion cant be change to not promote blobing then it needs to go. This is my position on any commander ability be it allies or axies.

Stop acting like one doctrine is destroying the entire game, it isn't xd. if you had seen what i described in the OP you would under stand why this needs to be change. And yes anything that promotes bolding is ruining the game in my eyes, and needs to go. IF you like bolbing (this is a general statement not aimed at you) you need to play Starcraft, or Act of Aggression. Not CoH 2.