Compare the stats of Easy 8 to T34/85. It will amaze you. EZ8 costs more, but has a gun that performs much worse vs tanks (less penetration, much slower reload) and only slightly better vs infantry in terms of AOE although I think the reload difference still puts the T34/85 on top. It has somewhat more armor(which hardly matters because at 215 nearly every german weapon will still penetrate, might bounce 1-2 out of 10 times) but considerably less HP (800vs640). T34/85 is light-years ahead of EZ8, they fill basically the same role. And when you pit a Panther vs EZ8 forget about it. Panther only costs 110MP/35FU more but DOMINATES ez 8 all day. People say 2x easy 8s takes on a panther. Great so I need to invest somewhere around 760MP/280FU to engage at 490/175 unit?
EZ8 needs buffs. Atleast 800 HP and make gun reload 5.0-5.5 instead of 6.0-6.6. I could see a cost decrease but then whats the point? It would barely be any different from stock Sherman. No one cares about 215 armor vs German universal Uber-penetration.
Sherman Easy 8 Needs Buffs, Seriously.
30 Jul 2015, 16:29 PM
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30 Jul 2015, 16:37 PM
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OpieOP
EZ8 >>>> t-34/85
EZ8 >>>> t-34/85
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30 Jul 2015, 16:42 PM
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EZ8 costs more, but has a gun that performs much worse vs tanks (less penetration, much slower reload)
Excuse me, what?
http://www.coh2-stats.com/ballistic_weapons/sherman_m1_76mm_easy8_mp
http://www.coh2-stats.com/ballistic_weapons/t34_85_zis-s-53_85mm_t34_mp
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
30 Jul 2015, 16:43 PM
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Vet0 Easy 8 gun
175/165/155 reload time 6.55
Vet0 T-34/85 gun
160/140/120 reload time 6.4
Doesn't seems like - gun that performs much worse vs tanks (less penetration, much slower reload).
175/165/155 reload time 6.55
Vet0 T-34/85 gun
160/140/120 reload time 6.4
Doesn't seems like - gun that performs much worse vs tanks (less penetration, much slower reload).
30 Jul 2015, 16:57 PM
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Posts: 141
I was looking at a bunch of stats on coh2 stats and got the SU85 main gun mixed up with the T34/85 main gun.
Still, I think Easy 8 should get some more HP or a slight cost decrease. Not like this thread will matter much now.
30 Jul 2015, 17:00 PM
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I was looking at a bunch of stats on coh2 stats and got the SU85 main gun mixed up with the T34/85 main gun.
Still, I think Easy 8 should get some more HP or a slight cost decrease. Not like this thread will matter much now.
You have been spamming nothing but Allies need buff posts lately.
30 Jul 2015, 17:09 PM
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Permanently BannedTank costs 135-140 fuel. Dude chill.
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30 Jul 2015, 17:17 PM
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Spamming threads won't help the USF, you have to spam rear echelons instead.
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30 Jul 2015, 17:19 PM
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This thread.
30 Jul 2015, 17:45 PM
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You have been spamming nothing but Allies need buff posts lately.
It's more "buff USF" than "buff Allies". But hey at least I am getting my pain across.
30 Jul 2015, 18:55 PM
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It's fine, it has armour instead of health. The Easy Eight's purpose is to fight Medium Tanks.
Compare the Easy Eight's cost to the Panzer IV Ausf. H. It has a bit less armour, but much better penetration instead,
Compare the Easy Eight's cost to the Panzer IV Ausf. H. It has a bit less armour, but much better penetration instead,
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30 Jul 2015, 22:59 PM
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It's more "buff USF" than "buff Allies". But hey at least I am getting my pain across.
Oh yes they do need buffs, yet not every single aspect of that faction needs a buff. I would rather see it getting a design overhaul.
But the way you are doing it won't get anything done apart from you getting a status on this forum. Perhaps even more controversial than Katikof
31 Jul 2015, 08:01 AM
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It's more "buff USF" than "buff Allies". But hey at least I am getting my pain across.
Yes, we know that USF need a rework, but dont be the USF faction lawyer please, you are just bad at it...
I'am sure if you defend a kid against a rapist in a court, the kid will go in jail and end up paying a lot of money to the rapist, so please, just stap ...
3 Threads created in less than a week
- M4 Sherman needs cost decrease
- USF - A few more design errors
- Sherman Easy 8 Needs Buffs, Seriously.
THIS FORUM IS NOT YOUR TWITTER
31 Jul 2015, 08:13 AM
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Yes, we know that USF need a rework, but dont be the USF faction lawyer please, you are just bad at it...
I'am sure if you defend a kid against a rapist in a court, the kid will go in jail and end up paying a lot of money to the rapist, so please, just stap ...
3 Threads created in less than a week
- M4 Sherman needs cost decrease
- USF - A few more design errors
- Sherman Easy 8 Needs Buffs, Seriously.
THIS FORUM IS NOT YOUR TWITTER
but they do need rework and new hardware/units no more hand-me-downs relic pls its no wonder why majority prefer to play axis over allies
31 Jul 2015, 08:16 AM
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but they do need rework and new hardware/units no more hand-me-downs relic pls its no wonder why majority prefer to play axis over allies
Did you read my first sentence ? or you just reply without reading ?
31 Jul 2015, 08:23 AM
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Did you read my first sentence ? or you just reply without reading ?
sigh yes i did while i agree with you it is rather a bit "informal" you might want to try and understand this person's frustration in that the faction he knows and loves is of a hand-me-down quality...
31 Jul 2015, 08:28 AM
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sigh yes i did while i agree with you it is rather a bit "informal" you might want to try and understand this person's frustration in that the faction he knows and loves is of a hand-me-down quality...
- To be honnest, i play 100X time more USF than him, i just want him to stop SPAM thread like twitts, with false arguments in bonus.
31 Jul 2015, 08:37 AM
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But the way you are doing it won't get anything done apart from you getting a status on this forum. Perhaps even more controversial than Katikof
Best insult I've heard today
31 Jul 2015, 08:42 AM
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sigh yes i did while i agree with you it is rather a bit "informal" you might want to try and understand this person's frustration in that the faction he knows and loves is of a hand-me-down quality...
Is everything about the USF you're going you say going to hand-me-down quality simply because they don't have Panzer V Panthers, Vet 5 Obers, or a heavy tank? Having played USF significantly, they need small tweaks and adjustments here and there (no need to revamp entire units in the core), but they are hardly what you call them in the hands of a good player. Things like Pershings, Rangers, and Calliopes can wait until the faction core can stand up non-doctrinally with everything that's currently in it, aside from the possibility of adding a T0 mortar.
On the E8 itself and all Shermans, make the .50cal cheaper and call it a day. Maybe boost its speed slightly because for some reason it's slower than the Panzer IV by 0.2, though I don't really notice. Maybe it's the vet 2, but those tanks seem to glide around the battlefield.
31 Jul 2015, 09:18 AM
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its no wonder why majority prefer to play axis over allies
The majority play Axis because the bad guys are cool, that's it. There's a reason people like Darth Vader, or the Imprerium, or the Daleks. Evil is cool.
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