Fallschrimjagers need love!

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:27 PMDraje

No, they do worse dps up to 20 range. Post that they do better. And they have worse received accuracy. Their vet is better, but considering how squishy they are its risky and takes awhile to get there.

IMO, Falls are only efficient if you manage a squad wipe. If you don't their manpower cost + upkeep is way too much of a drain, and if you do you're still paying a premium price for a squishy obers. As well, considering how absurdly clumped up they are when you spawn them, if any vehicle is unexpectedly there you have a good chance at getting instantly wiped

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:42 PMAlexzandvar

If you use Fallsch at close range your doing it wrong. It kinda sucks that Fallsch lose a lot of DPS as they lose models

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:48 PMZyllen

FSJ's are fine. The only problem with the okw is that their obers are completely overnerfed. they are without a doubt the most expensive infantry squad in the game and lose to much cheaper ones. reduce their cost 300 (reinforcements as well) and popcap to 8.

And after all this is said and done i think the okw is in a good position. i still think aa track needs to be buffed by reducing the setup with 2 buts thats my opnion.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:47 PMiTzDusty

If falls are so good why does no one use them, unlike paras?

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:51 PMDraje

300 would make oberspam totally real. Obers start out incredibly ineffecient for their cost, but their vet makes them the best infantry in the game at vet 4.

I had a vet 4 ober with stg44s advanced upon by 4 vet 0 riflement with bars (in a custom). rifle move through no cover, ober behind a tree.

The ober completely wiped all 4 riflemen, losing only one unit ant ending with around 70% total squad health. Obers are so costly because their vet and weapon upgrades are insane

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:32 PMAlexzandvar

They don't have booby trap, thats JLI. Yes the abilities they have are far better than the unit itself. But I can pay 400 mp for a .7 received accuracy unit with booby trap, bundle grenade, and vet 1 white phos nade non-doctrinally.



Depends on how close your are and how much your opponent is supporting his shit. Also depends on house placement.



If they dropped in they could receive a slight cost reduction and reinforcement reduction since they wouldn't be "paying" for popping out of buildings. Alternatively give them better received accuracy so they don't need to cost less.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:54 PMCruzz

I use them all the time, it's either falls or jaegers in 1vs1 from me as I prefer mining to spending all my muni on fusilier g43s.

OKW cancernades are freaking amazing. Just those alone are worth having a squad for.

Jaegers are stupid good, especially in comparison to the much more expensive falls. Cancer nades help on top of that

Jump back to quoted post21 Jul 2015, 00:11 AMIntelligence209

Would like to see the squishy characteristics removed. I have falls get sniped by AT guns far too often. It's annoying having one of fall on the way out of the door and die.

Jump back to quoted post21 Jul 2015, 00:43 AMCorsin

For their cost the should have the same armor as shock troops.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:48 PMZyllen

FSJ's are fine. The only problem with the okw is that their obers are completely overnerfed. they are without a doubt the most expensive infantry squad in the game and lose to much cheaper ones. reduce their cost 300 (reinforcements as well) and popcap to 8.

And after all this is said and done i think the okw is in a good position. i still think aa track needs to be buffed by reducing the setup with 2 buts thats my opnion.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 21:40 PMDraje

This is once again incorrect, falls do more at medium and long, paras out dps them at close. and given the extra 2 men for health differences, paras will dominate falls at close range. Falls need to engage paras at medium/long in heavy cover to be at a serious advantage.

Paras getting tommies swings this even further, and paras getting a1919 changes the fight all together