Ostheer HMG too strong now

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 18:09 PMAlexzandvar

The Dhsk does waaay more DPS and damage and has a faster set up and tear down time. Like idk if you have used it lately but I have and Iv been able to reliable kill any light vehicle I come across in a short time using it and it suppress's on the first burst.

Put it in a building and you will reak havoc.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 13:04 PMTheodosios

What I like about changes regarding MG42 and other HMG is the fact that you cannot run straightforward into them to throw grenades anymore

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 13:16 PM(><)UFO

Well, as a matter of fact you can't run into a HMG42, wipe the crew and steal it anymore. You have to build your own HMGs which are much better: 50cal and DshK.


It is still vulnerable to oorah+Lolotov, Smoke+Getting overrun, AAHT and M20.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 13:26 PM__deleted__

Realistically, flanking (2 directions suffice) and grenades make MGs largely a non-issue in all stages of the game. Thats not trash talk.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 14:34 PMaaa

That short word "if".
Fnank is not an option in many situations.

What i think i will try on urban maps
4 cons 2 mortars opening
1. In case of enemy having 2 mgs I will have 2 more infantry squads and to cap points in the opening. (if 1 mg i will flank it)

2. after that it will be like 4 cons 2 mortars vs 4 greens 2 mgs. And try hard to get vet 1 to any mortar.

3. After mortar gets vet 1. I will pound him using flares (which he dont have as far as i know) probably forcing to attack. And he cannot attack with his mgs he will attacj with infantry outside of mg range and die.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 18:17 PMKatitof

http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/dshk_38_sokolov_mp

http://www.coh2-stats.com/small_arms/hmg_team_mg42_mp

Hardly "waaay more DPS and damage" considering the cost difference.
At vet1 with incendiary rounds on, THAT is "waaay more DPS", but its not DSHK that does it.

Aim time, set up and tear down and poor AP rounds make it impossible to "reliably kill any light vehicle", unless its immobilized first.

Except one rips light armor and infantry apart and other eats rifle nade and retreats.

As usual you talk so much shit that it makes people reading it want to flush.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 09:39 AMm00nch1ld

Pls. Have you ever heard of flanking, smoke grenades... Have you ever even played coh1? Finally you have to think a little bit in the early game when playing allies.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 19:00 PMdasheepeh

says the ostheer fanboy

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 19:11 PMThe_rEd_bEar

I think mg42s are ok and do what they're suppose to do its mainly an issue with usf lacking a viable strat besides rifle spam and shitty maps. Relic should fire the who thought the maxim was ok and shouldn't get a aoe buff, because it still sucks at countering blobs

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 12:29 PMausterlitz

No more blob charging head on

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 19:27 PMGluhoman

And what you can speak about flanking when single mg42 suppress squad with one shot on any distance. Today I have a lot of games when mg42 just suppress my squad from fog of war, squad was very far frame this mg.

Grenades shouldn't work when suppressed.

Except maybe smoke nades.

Jump back to quoted post25 Jun 2015, 19:31 PMAlexzandvar

The weakness of the MG42/34 is that is has a loooooong swivel time. Meaning if you send in two squads each on one end of the arc one squad will get suppressed while the other can get close enough to throw a grenade.




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