Ostheer HMG too strong now

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2015, 14:10 PM__deleted__

Penals can be fine being long range infantry with decent utility (flamer and satchel vs ostheer static building play)
Also most player forgo satchel - you can easilly destroy okw hq with 3 of them.

If maxim and penal would be buffed and call in meta fixed , russian can play diverse competitive game


Also i think partisant should be buffed and cons ppsh should be buffed too so we can use and see many underused russian commaders in 1 vs 1 games

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2015, 15:13 PMElSlayer

Also most player forgot Puma - you can easilly destroy usf base with it.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2015, 15:56 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

NO, it was a silly joke.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jul 2015, 09:23 AMEsxile

1- I don't love god.
2- S-mine are denying an area, same if you can be smart and not go in. You have to use a RE squad to remove it and it covers very well your flank, probably better than in coh1.
3- Volks are weaker than rifles and only better at long range, like gren but no LMGs on them.
4- M8 isn't a Stuart, Stuart doesn't have AT mine, Stuart doesn't have an MG and M8 hasn't any AT abilities to stun or engine damage.
5- US HT could be upgrade with airflak and still reinforce and was enough durable to only be countered by pak, shrecks and tanks.

I don't know why you are trying to tell us USF flanking is fine in coh2 because it was fine in coh1. In Coh1, it was core design, it is not in coh2.
The game coh2 has been designed to be accessible to the mass, to blob, to not rely on flanking because that too complicated etc... We are probably agreeing on that point, that is a shitty design and coh1 is by far better. But now they decided to bring coh2 to coh1 level of micro without giving USF the tools to do so and still leave to Axis the side compensations: larger arc of fire, pio vision, pio better than RE, hmg42 dealing more damage.

Jump back to quoted post3 Jul 2015, 09:23 AMEsxile

The game coh2 has been designed to be accessible to the mass, to blob, to not rely on flanking because that too complicated etc... We are probably agreeing on that point, that is a shitty design and coh1 is by far better.

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2015, 19:10 PMJohnnyB

You are sooo deeply wrong. In COH1 blobs controled the game Fyi. Did you even play it? Then it's impossible not to have heard about: Paras blob (oh, with at weapons too, that did not miss a single shot), grenadier blob (especially from recicled soldiers) that was very resistent and stronger if used in terror doctrine, the infamous british blob - the best blob ever if it was sustained by officers, the shreck blob from panzer elite, the ranger blob! And those were ANTI- everything blobs - they killed vehicles and infantry alike! And even more, british, wehrmacht and usf had "soldier recycling stations" aka med bunkers and such that provided you with brand new units from losses you took! The blobs in COH1 were the best blobs ever.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 05:57 AMPorygon

LeL, rangers blob anti-everything?

You mistaken thought they are the campaign Fox company rangers?

2 microed pumas are enough to deal with them.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 06:06 AMJohnnyB

Don't have Ardennes. I was talking about vCoh rangers. It wasn't the most dangerous blob, but still, verry efficient especialy on field and base structures. Upgraded with thompsons they were verry dangerous against infantry also. I don't know how pumas are now in vCOH, didn't play the game from longtime ago, but I've played it for like 4-5 years in the past and I know what I experienced then. The reign of blobs. The counters were more powerfull to, but they had abilities to counter their counters (like fire up to overpass / flank mgs). The british blob didn't even care about mgs lol. The only things that they could not defend from were the nebel / arty strikes and v1s. Tanks were doing shit against them.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 06:06 AMJohnnyB

Don't have Ardennes. I was talking about vCoh rangers. It wasn't the most dangerous blob, but still, verry efficient especialy on field and base structures. Upgraded with thompsons they were verry dangerous against infantry also. I don't know how pumas are now in vCOH, didn't play the game from longtime ago, but I've played it for like 4-5 years in the past and I know what I experienced then. The reign of blobs. The counters were more powerfull to, but they had abilities to counter their counters (like fire up to overpass / flank mgs). The british blob didn't even care about mgs lol. The only things that they could not defend from were the nebel / arty strikes and v1s. Tanks were doing shit against them.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 07:14 AMEsxile

Try to call 3 Ranger squad or 3 para squads (I guess 3 squads togheter is starting to be a blob) and see your MP income
Rifles were limited to 4, above your were hitting so much your Mp income.
Volks into gren zombi was effectively potent but not near powerful as what grenspam lmg are today.

The only credit I give you is the OP factions which brought more blob situation. But in term of vcoh, blob existed yes, was effective in mid-high level: no.