Ostheer HMG too strong now
25 Jun 2015, 09:29 AM
#1
Posts: 45
I don't know what's wrong with the hmg last patch, it is too hard for USF to counter OStheer HMG this patch in early game, two HMG can simply shutdown everything it is really frustrating, I feel everyone from German side are playing Ostheer now. something has to be done for the HMG now.
25 Jun 2015, 09:39 AM
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Pls. Have you ever heard of flanking, smoke grenades... Have you ever even played coh1? Finally you have to think a little bit in the early game when playing allies.
ketetof shudnt b allaud tew tawlk abowt balence hee s biasd
25 Jun 2015, 09:41 AM
#3
Posts: 33
no more yolo rush towards hmg 
25 Jun 2015, 09:42 AM
#4
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25 Jun 2015, 09:44 AM
#5
Posts: 334
PLease the "flank moar use smoke" argument is old and is invalid.
Ever come up against interlocked MGs?
Maps where flanking is harder?
Give USF the damn mortar and AT gun in HQ after teching. Problem solved.
Ever come up against interlocked MGs?
Maps where flanking is harder?
Give USF the damn mortar and AT gun in HQ after teching. Problem solved.
25 Jun 2015, 09:50 AM
#7
Posts: 1930
buff pack howitzer. Now that the mg42 can actually stop infantry the USF need actual artillery to counter the wehr's support weapon.
25 Jun 2015, 10:13 AM
#8
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buff pack howitzer. Now that the mg42 can actually stop infantry the USF need actual artillery to counter the wehr's support weapon.
Pack howitzer is already a great unit in its performance.
The problem with it as far as countering HMGs goes is that it comes waaaaay to late. You can't make an early-game Pack howitzer to counter MG openings.
25 Jun 2015, 10:15 AM
#9
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Have you ever even played coh1?
The game where USF could get early mortars, snipers and jeeps against HMG openings?
It's unfair to say "Now you have to think a bit when playing allies" when there is literally 1 opening you can do: rifles.
25 Jun 2015, 10:20 AM
#10
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Pls. Have you ever heard of flanking, smoke grenades... Have you ever even played coh1? Finally you have to think a little bit in the early game when playing allies.
I always laugh at all the "like in coh1" replies.
Pink shades so much that it hurts.
So let me remind you of mortar smoke suppression immunity and all the "fire up" abilities.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
25 Jun 2015, 10:29 AM
#11
Posts: 2561
It's just like company of heroes 1! Just if you took away 5/6th of the US's starting units.
I always laugh at all the "like in coh1" replies.
Pink shades so much that it hurts.
So let me remind you of mortar smoke suppression immunity and all the "fire up" abilities.
25 Jun 2015, 10:34 AM
#12
Posts: 738
There is something called smoke you know, and luckily USF get it on their core infantry and tanks. Then there is also abilities like "On me!" with the captain that half the playerbase just ignores and forgets to use.
I think someone is just a bit salty he can no longer walk his rifle blob into MG fire and simply gun them down frontally.
I think someone is just a bit salty he can no longer walk his rifle blob into MG fire and simply gun them down frontally.
25 Jun 2015, 10:34 AM
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The game where USF could get early mortars, snipers and jeeps against HMG openings?
It's unfair to say "Now you have to think a bit when playing allies" when there is literally 1 opening you can do: rifles.
t2 openings were not really viable. only few ppl could get it to work. All i am saying is that allies need different approach. ppl are just used of A-move blob into mgs. and i said think in the early game
I always laugh at all the "like in coh1" replies.
Pink shades so much that it hurts.
So let me remind you of mortar smoke suppression immunity and all the "fire up" abilities.
I always laugh at all your replies so dont even bother. fire up ability is only on one unit, one! and its not even like ooorah when you dont get any penalties after using it.
ketetof shudnt b allaud tew tawlk abowt balence hee s biasd
25 Jun 2015, 10:41 AM
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fire up ability is only on one unit, one! and its not even like ooorah when you dont get any penalties after using it.
Rangers.
Paras.
Whole britblob could be fired up by officer.
And oorah doesn't give you suppression immunity, so I can't see how can you compare them.
I like that some things never change, like you acting like you have rabies and being as clueless as ever about stuff you talk about.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
25 Jun 2015, 10:45 AM
#15
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play more defensively/safe and use various methods of obtaining sight on enemy positions before you try to attack.
25 Jun 2015, 10:45 AM
#16
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Rangers.
Paras.
Whole britblob could be fired up by officer.
And oorah doesn't give you suppression immunity, so I can't see how can you compare them.
I like that some things never change, like you acting like you have rabies and being as clueless as ever about stuff you talk about.
i dont get it dude. i told you not to bother.
ketetof shudnt b allaud tew tawlk abowt balence hee s biasd
25 Jun 2015, 10:50 AM
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We wouldn't have that thread or problem if relic would put more changes from alpha into the latest patch 
However, can't blob into a HMG anymore and win the engagement : "omg usf early game is done, relic please nerf"
You can use several smoke nades to force a retreat. It's really hard to regain territory for a HMG spammer, once being pushed back.
However, can't blob into a HMG anymore and win the engagement : "omg usf early game is done, relic please nerf"
You can use several smoke nades to force a retreat. It's really hard to regain territory for a HMG spammer, once being pushed back.
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25 Jun 2015, 11:04 AM
#18
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MG is just fine now.
Take that USF blobs!
Take that USF blobs!
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25 Jun 2015, 11:10 AM
#19
Posts: 105
MG is fine. Im happy about them.
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25 Jun 2015, 11:18 AM
#20
Posts: 21
MG42s are fine. This patch just forces you to stop using Rifle Company as if it was meta. Pak howitzer, Mortar Halftrack, M8 Scott are all some of the hard counters for MG42s. Just l2p.
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