Su85 vs new SU76
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They both have the same penetration value now but the Su76 is significant cheaper.
At zero vet the SU85 causes more dmg, but i think at vet 3 the different should no longer be so much. (hope someone knows the numbers with vet)
So why not make the SU76 and get an anti Infantry Barrage and for the cost nearly the same AT capability?
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Still never.
We have to wait for remaining changes before SU-76 will get some spot light.
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SU76 has damage of 140 and reload of 2.61 seconds, or 53.6 DPS
Su85 has damage of 160 and reload of 2.49 seconds or 64.2 DPS
The difference isn't staggering, the SU76 will vet faster, has barrage, is cheaper, and in due time will possess another very large economic and timing advantage over the SU85 . SU85 has health, DPS, and can self-spot (both vehicles are armored such that they are proof against small arms and autocannons, but cannot deflect any significant vehicle cannon, so the SU85 doesn't have a real advantage there).
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Try to spam SU-76s and you will be stomped the moment anything bigger then a P4 comes out.
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Why buy the SU-85 when the SU-76 is a lot cheaper but a litte worse at AT and has a free AI barrage. The SU-85 and T-34/76 need to be looked at to be made a lot more desirable.
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Of coz it has AI barrage which is great too.
But something tells me that Werhm gonna build Stug much more frequent now.
I would try combo 2 Stug E 2 Stug G all the Stun gonna hurt
Both Stugs have more HP (560)
I think this would be especially difficult for USF
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Fixed that for you.
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Looking forward to trying out the new SU-76M. I've always tried to like them and I've sometimes managed to get them to work, but it's always been an uphill struggle, hopefully this will change...
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I anticipate T2 skipping as Ostheer to rush a Stug now. I also foresee Soviet SU-85 boring the dust.
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Also remember that the su76 can only tank 3 at gun shots, where as the su85 can take 4.Giving it the survivability of a Jackson. Yet the clumsy mobility (fucked up patching) of a turretless tank destroyer. I think the performance differences between both units will show. The Su-76 is still a glass cannon. The current (old) StuG is hardly built because it goes down with three shots.
I imagine the new Su-76 like the StuG is right now with less armor, a barrage,less AI capabilities, 5 fuel cheaper and with 60 range.
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SU76 has another capability Su85 doesn´t have. You are not only building a SU76 for its AT but its cheap barrage. SU76 isn´t a hardcounter but an overall unit able to be used in many situation. Su85 has no value if there is not tank on the field.
Barrage is unreliable crap.
It is better to have SU-85 and Katy than a tonn of SU-76 with shitty barrage.
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