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Su85 vs new SU76

21 Jun 2015, 14:24 PM
#21
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Barrage is unreliable crap.
It is better to have SU-85 and Katy than a tonn of SU-76 with shitty barrage.


Cost?
21 Jun 2015, 14:48 PM
#22
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jun 2015, 14:24 PMEsxile


Cost?

Sorry, I don't get the question.
21 Jun 2015, 15:33 PM
#23
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Sorry, I don't get the question.


how much cost SU85 + Kav vs a Su76?
21 Jun 2015, 15:48 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jun 2015, 15:33 PMEsxile


how much cost SU85 + Kav vs a Su76?



Barrage is unreliable crap.
It is better to have SU-85 and Katy than a tonn of SU-76 with shitty barrage.
21 Jun 2015, 16:38 PM
#25
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What does mean "a tonn"? 1 Su76 is probably enough in 1vs1 and next build something else. 1 Su76 will give you a good At and a barrage to fight medium.

I don't understand the logic Su76 vs Su85 when both haven't the same purpose.
21 Jun 2015, 17:30 PM
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Su76 barrage is primarily for team weapons and buildings. And does just fine doing that. Get 2 of them if you need more destructive power as they are cheap as chips.
21 Jun 2015, 18:27 PM
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Barrage is unreliable crap.
It is better to have SU-85 and Katy than a tonn of SU-76 with shitty barrage.


Use it when you have sight of something and I think you will find it a lot more reliable. It's literally the ZiS gun barrage but free.
21 Jun 2015, 19:27 PM
#28
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Jun 2015, 16:38 PMEsxile
What does mean "a tonn"? 1 Su76 is probably enough in 1vs1 and next build something else. 1 Su76 will give you a good At and a barrage to fight medium.

I don't understand the logic Su76 vs Su85 when both haven't the same purpose.

I apologize, it seems that language barrier prevents me from expressing myself clear enough.

I've meant same amount resources spent on SU-76 compared to going straight to SU-85+Katys.
I think you get better both AI and AT with resources spent on mixed SU-85+Katys.

Yeah, you can say that SU-76 is kinda stop gap because it come to the battlefield much earlier, but SU-76 play is very reactive. It doesn't gives you shock value of opening attack with Katy barrage (or going T-70 or T-34 if we are talking about alternatives).

And if you buy one, you delay your top tier units for quite much which may cost you a game in the end. Maybe it worth the delay if you went T1->T4 because T1 have zero AT.

Well, it depends on situation and without having some replays we can only theorycraft. First month after patch will tell more.

Also I'm talking from 4v4 format perspective.



Use it when you have sight of something and I think you will find it a lot more reliable. It's literally the ZiS gun barrage but free.

My opinion based on barrage performance with line of sight and without one.
It's literally same unreliable crap as ZiS barrage but free.
If I use ability, I want some consistent effect. Hell, I'm ready to pay some munitions for that!
21 Jun 2015, 22:20 PM
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My opinion based on barrage performance with line of sight and without one.
It's literally same unreliable crap as ZiS barrage but free.
If I use ability, I want some consistent effect. Hell, I'm ready to pay some munitions for that!


If you use it at max range like an artillery barrage it will be inaccurate, but it can easily wipe squads and for absolutely free that's pretty fun. It's also good against buildings, weapon teams and OKW trucks.

Like the whole point of the SU-76 is it's multi-role AND cheap. It's new pen isn't something to sneeze at at max range it has a 60% chance to frontally pen a tiger and a 56% chance to frontally pen a Panther!
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