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14 May 2015, 14:37 PM
#21
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I knew this was coming. Soviet warrior Katitof himself on his quest to defend comrade stalin and his minions.


Yes, please deny pio, MG42, 222 and sniper buffs, because they didn't happened and its just my propaganda to fool righteous axis fanbois and instill fear in their clean of bias hearts and make them believe there is a conspiracy going against them with allied agenda to make late game equal without changing anything in early game. :foreveralone:
14 May 2015, 14:42 PM
#22
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 May 2015, 14:37 PMKatitof


Yes, please deny pio, MG42, 222 and sniper buffs, because they didn't happened and its just my propaganda to fool righteous axis fanbois and instill fear in their clean of bias hearts and make them believe there is a conspiracy going against them with allied agenda to make late game equal without changing anything in early game. :foreveralone:


Wow, Pio, MG, 222 and Sniper buffs so significant :foreveralone:

Meta Soviets are blatantly overpowered, and no, Meta Ostheer doesnt even come close. Cant you agree with something for once? Because youre always talking about axis fanboys, but youre one of the bigger allied ones here.
14 May 2015, 14:45 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 May 2015, 14:36 PMRocket


I still find the axis have the advantage late game there resource rates excel later on with trucks and what not seems soon as well kill one tiger or kt another one is right there to replace it and eventually we can't keep production up quite the same the axis still has far better AT options with there at guns, shrek mobs, pak emplacements, jagdtiger.



Are we playing the same version of coh2?
14 May 2015, 14:47 PM
#24
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Wow, Pio, MG, 222 and Sniper buffs so significant :foreveralone:


This all helps but not as much against the SU match up. The sniper buff was really significant although.
14 May 2015, 14:47 PM
#25
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I just don't know anymore... Unbiased opinions are impossible. My original post I felt was fair. Good lawd....
14 May 2015, 14:50 PM
#26
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Are we playing the same version of coh2?


Yeah I think so the one where your t34/85 can be knocked out in two hits of a flak emplacement, at gun, or jagdtiger that can fire halfway across the map? or a Tiger crew shocking your tank every other hit.
14 May 2015, 14:56 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 May 2015, 14:50 PMRocket


Yeah I think so the one where your t34/85 can be knocked out in two hits of a flak emplacement, at gun, or jagdtiger that can fire halfway across the map? or a Tiger crew shocking your tank every other hit.


Pak 43 takes 320+320+320 is 3 hits. 85s have 800 hp.

Jags tiger loses to medium tank spam and mark vehicle,and all these emplacements you speak of are brutally murdered by katyusha.

IS2 and ISU crew shock more than anything I've ever encountered. Again are we playing the same version of coh?
14 May 2015, 14:58 PM
#28
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The sniper buff was in fact a big deal - I was totally mistaken about that as well - but all the recent changes to OH have much more impact on the OH vs US matchup. Of course its somewhat map dependant, but I think meta Soviets are stronger than meta OH from the early through the lategame. Its not a dramatic advantage, there has been far worse balance in this games' history, but its still tangible, mostly because Soviets can simply allow for more mistakes.
14 May 2015, 15:20 PM
#29
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Pak 43 takes 320+320+320 is 3 hits. 85s have 800 hp.

Jags tiger loses to medium tank spam and mark vehicle,and all these emplacements you speak of are brutally murdered by katyusha.

IS2 and ISU crew shock more than anything I've ever encountered. Again are we playing the same version of coh?


You cannot complain about notech call in spam and katyushas at the same time.
Please take a whine card for one and wait in line.
14 May 2015, 15:23 PM
#30
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You cannot complain about notech call in spam and katyushas at the same time.
Please take a whine card for one and wait in line.



Where did he complain about Katys? he said that if emplacements are your problem, just use kat. That is complain in your country? lol
14 May 2015, 15:33 PM
#31
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However, emplacements are not brutally murdered by katyushas. After getting it to vet1, it can DECREW the PAK like every 2 minutes if you invest all your muni income.. it's not like it's a stuka lol
14 May 2015, 15:35 PM
#32
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Soviets and USF are both really strong right now IMO.

Soviets meta is overall easier to use and generally less punishing, but doesn't have the raw dmg capacity USF has when played to it's full potential. It's just that reaching that top potential is easier as Soviets than USF.
14 May 2015, 15:38 PM
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However, emplacements are not brutally murdered by katyushas. After getting it to vet1, it can DECREW the PAK like every 2 minutes if you invest all your muni income.. it's not like it's a stuka lol


GTFO, it kills most crewed weapon out right ESPECIALLY both paks with precision strike.. And it's not like soviets are struggling for munitions. Or targets to get it to vet 1.

please.
14 May 2015, 15:41 PM
#34
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GTFO, it kills most crewed weapon out right ESPECIALLY both paks with precision strike.. And it's not like soviets are struggling for munitions. Or targets to get it to vet 1.

please.


No it does not. Pak43 has 470 hitpoints and katyusha precision strike does 320 damage when all rockets hit.
14 May 2015, 15:49 PM
#35
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The only unit that has stood out to me as broken/OP for the Soviets is the IS-2. They're just too tough, especially when there's more than one on the field.
14 May 2015, 15:50 PM
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No it does not. Pak43 has 470 hitpoints and katyusha precision strike does 320 damage when all rockets hit.


Assuming there's only one katyusha at 8 CP?
Paks ,especially immobile paks that are huge targets,are invalid when katyushas (or any of the numerous allied artillery pieces )come.
14 May 2015, 15:55 PM
#37
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Assuming there's only one katyusha at 8 CP?
Paks ,especially immobile paks that are huge targets,are invalid when katyushas (or any of the numerous allied artillery pieces )come.


And soviets should not be allowed to counter a strategy or what are you saying?
14 May 2015, 15:57 PM
#39
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Comrades! We have recently received a most glorious report from our friends in the People's Republic of coh2.org!

The puny fascist weeps at the very thought of our most impressive Red Army! It is well known by soldier and worker alike, that the Soviet Union will prevail against this most vile imperialist enemy, but only now at their end do the fascist cowards understand.

Let every post denouncing our Great People's Republic be a prismatic mural that bestows great joy to all those who witness its beauty. The dark storm of fascist aggression is still upon us, but cracks have been made in our cowardly enemies resolve! It is through those cracks that we will drive our most venerable T-34 and Iosef Stalin tanks and destroy the invader for The Motherland once and for all!


Forward! To Victory!
14 May 2015, 16:00 PM
#40
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 May 2015, 15:57 PMArclyte


Comrades! We have recently received a most glorious report from our friends in the People's Republic of coh2.org!

The puny fascist weeps at the very thought of our most impressive Red Army! It is well known by soldier and worker alike, that the Soviet Union will prevail against this most vile imperialist enemy, but only now at their end do the fascist cowards understand.

Let every post denouncing our Great People's Republic be a prismatic mural that bestows great joy to all those who witness its beauty. The dark storm of fascist aggression is still upon us, but cracks have been made in our cowardly enemies resolve! It is through those cracks that we will drive our most venerable T-34 and Iosef Stalin tanks and destroy the invader for The Motherland once and for all!


Forward! To Victory!


ok stalin

but give food first pls
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