Ostheer, the never ending struggle

Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2015, 20:11 PMS0_L337_1T_HURTS

This comment is fairly amateurish and seems to ignore completely, the fact that MG42's can't reposition. The pack-up animation is REALLY long, and the unit walks slowly, that you're going to be overwhelmed by the allied player. Especially if he has shocks (which have smoke!). Regardless of the allied unit, as soon as you see smoke, the best option is to retreat or lose the MG outright. This is the case, 99% of the time.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 17:55 PMWingZero

Unless USF player is going Rifle Company, I did not have any problems using MG-42 + Pio combo into scout cars.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 17:52 PMQueenRatchet123

It may be the player.. but Ost vs usf is still tough

i have less issues vs sov cus lmg grens will beat all sov inf if micro'ed well

and double paks make short work of slow is2's

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 17:55 PMBurts

You haven't been watching star crossed kings have you?


Guess jesulin losing againts ostheer as USF in like 10 minutes means jesulin is very low level

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 17:57 PMausterlitz

Not when they have flame artillery call-in,elite infantry and katyushas to crush ur pak wall.Ur scenario only works when he sends it in without support lol,that is -a noob.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 18:01 PMQueenRatchet123

This "scenario" Works when u figure out how to play the game

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 17:59 PMausterlitz

U think 1 match defines a trend?For every victory there are 3 defeats.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 18:06 PMausterlitz

No,scenario works in ur mind where u believe flame arty,katyusha ,elite infantry can't dislodge ur pak wall which will take potshots on unsupported is-2 all day.In ur dreams.Without elfant ,ur basically fucked lategame vs soviet..ost has no chance.Tiger will lose 10 out of 10 times.A is-2 supported by zis always wins vs tiger supported by pak.
Then panther is inaccesible in 1 vs 1.Moreover it can't kill is-2 unless its reckless,only deter it from becoming too adventurous.An is-2 backed by zis ,panther can't do anything.

Nothing else will work.pz 4-u get 6 pz 4s,and they will still lsoe because not a single shot will penetrate.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 18:10 PMBurts

Are you talking about your own winrate?

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 18:13 PMBurts

I like how these people talk about how you can't take down IS-2s without elefants or whatever bullshit.


Please i have taken down many tigers/panthers in 1v1 just with the smart use of t-34/76s and t-70s + zis-3.

Oh wait, im soviets and i heard t-34 is superior to PIV and zis-3 is superior to pak 40 againts tanks, so i should think again Nope, no chance vs soviets with PIVs or even tigers. .


Man, you need an elephant to counter an IS-2. But king tiger gets hard countered by jacksons , don't even think about the tiger, it just evaporates

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 18:17 PMausterlitz

Get to the point,cut the babble..how will u kill is-2 without elefant if its supported.You can't.Pak43 can kill in large teamgames.Is-2 IS IWIN button,as much as king tiger was for OKW..far more so because its spammable.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 18:11 PMQueenRatchet123

l2p

fast ostwind will bleed a sov player dumb enough to wait for call-ins

as for flame barrage learn how to space ur team weapons

"fucked late game" ? learn how to place mines and get paks

shocks are not shit when focus fired, ive stopped building them. they require too much micro and bleed too much.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 18:19 PMBurts

Tiger + double PaKs. The end. Mix in some stuka close air support just to make sure.



Elephant in a 1v1 is just a horrible decision.

PIVs+ teller mines + PaKs can also take down an IS-2.

Panther in 1v1 is not really affordable. But in team games it is.


t-34/85s are much more of a headache...

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 18:27 PMausterlitz

I'm not a fan of elefant,its not reliable..but only thing and pak43 that can kill is-2 reliably
The end,for you.Is-2 plus zis=end.He can have arty support,either flame or katy..u ..none.Tiger is junk.Both is-2 and jackson laugh at it,its XP fodder.
P4s,u can buy 100 of them,..all the same vs is-2 ,that is scrap metal...door knocker.
Teller-yes.I used this...good counter,too bad needs much luck.

I guess thats why everyone going is-2 ,but not t-34/85.
Its a iwin button,but as expected soviet fanboys defend it to the hilt.
Why i lose all respect for the game...relic defended soviet cheese to the extreme.After 2 years removed snipershit,Now added guards and cons bullshit.

Jump back to quoted post14 Apr 2015, 20:36 PMJHeartless

I like when people on one hand say its impossible to counter an IS2 with Dual Pak guns because they are fragile but thought the Pre Buff Jackson was just fine to deal with King Tigers....

When the Pak...has...better pen, same range...better DPS....is cheaper....