Ostheer Artillery: 105mm, Panzerwerfer

Jump back to quoted post8 Jul 2015, 23:59 PMCardboard Tank

I´m resurrecting my thread from the dead, because I can.

The last patch was supposed to make new strategies viable. I still don´t see Ostheer artillery being a viable option.

Tbh even the once mighty B4 has disappeared from the game. Rumor has it that there is a 152 available for Russians. I yet have to see it. This all can´t be intended.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 01:06 AMGrumpy

lame KV1 and more lame B4

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 00:56 AMThoseDeafMutes

Static arty is only intermittently useful in a 1v1 context, which tends to be quite mobile and favouring aggressive action. In team games there's way too much risk of going up against CAS since it's part of the Ostheer Meta. If not CAS, then at least one player will probably be Elefant doctrine for recon+stukka bombing strike. These will both render the 152 / B4 / any static emplacement useless.

On the German side, there's less to worry about in terms of instant hardcounters, but IL2 bombing strikes are not "uncommon", and the allies usually have better indirect in the form of Priests or Katyushas. You don't often win an artillery duel.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 03:03 AMArclyte

howitzers should be better across the board, and the gun shouldn't be getting instagibbed by 1 click of a stuka strike or AT bombing run

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 03:10 AMArclyte

would be a lot easier to just buff the HP of the gun so it can be repaired after getting nuked

now since precision strike is gone, i can see some use of 105mm and less ppl using 152mm, however both art is piece of S**t atm, it got counter by any off map art, or rocket barrage, it is average like 1-3 time ability use life span, and it is very hard for them do deal 600mp damage during that time, so they is 1 of the 2 worst mp investment i think, the other one is flak emplacements

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 03:15 AMAlexzandvar

Fun Fact: the only unit in the game that still has precision strike is the 152mm howitzer.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 01:14 AMGrumpy

Nobody wins an artillery duel. It's an hour of mind-numbing boredom compared to any regular game. If I ever end up on Shittard, it's because I forgot to do vetoes.

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 03:11 AMAppleseed

soviet 152mm was great before because of precision strike and no osteer use 105mm because of precision strike will 1 shot decrew it or destroy it

now since precision strike is gone, i can see some use of 105mm and less ppl using 152mm, however both art is piece of S**t atm, it got counter by any off map art, or rocket barrage, it is average like 1-3 time ability use life span, and it is very hard for them do deal 600mp damage during that time, so they is 1 of the 2 worst mp investment i think, the other one is flak emplacements

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 01:43 AMTristan44

Kaitofs posts hurt my brain

Jump back to quoted post9 Jul 2015, 01:09 AMAlexzandvar

CAS has made the B4 kinda pointless, but it is very much still a good choice. With vet 3 it's accuracy is borderline broken. The KV1 is also a good steal of a tank, 145 fuel for a very tough T34 with better DPS.

EDIT: I should explain; the KV1 has the same gun as the T34/76 but without the "bugged" reload time and with the very good vet bonus's it gets a high vet KV1 can put out a scary amount of DPS while being fast. At vet 3 is has something stupid like a 2.1 second reload.