any of the proposed changes revert the su85 closer to that state. i don't think anyone wants that.
Didn't SU-85s also have really good frontal armour at that point?
I don't really think the SU-85 needs a buff, just, talking.
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any of the proposed changes revert the su85 closer to that state. i don't think anyone wants that.
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Didn't SU-85s also have really good frontal armour at that point?
I don't really think the SU-85 needs a buff, just, talking.
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su85 Hhas no turret.
If you increase its rotation too much you might as well just give it a turret kappa
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I'd prefer a SU-100, SU-85 is uber outdated in COH2's time frame
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I'd prefer a SU-100, SU-85 is uber outdated in COH2's time frame
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Su85 is literally the worst tank in the game. Unless the Stuart counts as a tank... maybe that's the worst.
Actually, the the Su76 is the worst with the Su85 being a close second. It struggles to ever kill anything heavier than a light vehicle, will never kill a heavy, is less than useless against infantry, has no great utility... like... it's just super bad.
Really needs focus sight removed in exchange for an accuracy increasing ability at Vet 1 and a slight mobility increase. The DPS is fine, I guess. But everything else about it kinda sucks.
Or maybe leave it as is with a slight cost decrease and decrease the amount of pop-cap it takes up slightly, to make fielding 2 more feasible.
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I wouldn't mind it seeing it get the Jackson treatment.
Increase pen, lower damage. Gives it more of a chance vs end-game heavies (tiger, king tiger, panther, jagdpanzer) while preventing it from completely dominating t3 play (p4, ostwind, luchs get a bit more time on the field)
Increasing mobility or front armour on a unit that has very high sight range is going to lead to trouble. It's a TD that doesn't need spotting, hence it must remain fragile.