PTRS now OP?

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 18:25 PMRMMLz

AT weapons sniping infantry are bad design, no matter if it's Panzerschreck or PTRS. Although, PTRS should have AI capabilities when it's used by Guards or partizans. But a change like this on you main line infantry is bad. Take a look at OKW. Why we are frustrated by SchreckBlob? Because you turn you AI core unit into laser guided tank hunters. Any drastic change to mainline infantry has the potential to break the game, because they are spammable and cheap.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 18:26 PMelchino7

Gonna say it again:

-PTRS destroying crewed support weapons is not fine.
-Everything else is fine.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 13:57 PMAlexzandvar

Because the power of the PTRS is the alpha damage. Walk up, instantly kill several models or make a crew weapon disappear then pull back.

The DPS is shite because it has a long cool down and reload, but if you volley half his army to death in the first shot who cares about reload?

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 18:26 PMelchino7

-PTRS destroying crewed support weapons is not fine.
-Everything else is fine.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 21:16 PMElSlayer

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Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 22:49 PMBananainpajamas

i dont thin ptrs is that much of a problem compared too the fact that no matter how many mistakes are made. cons with ptrs spam is just to cost effective... i think the problem is that cons need to bleed more mp because people just keep making them tell callins no matter how many losses and it still works..

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 22:31 PMdaspoulos

I have a huge issue with ptrs killing off retreating squads. Units tend to retreat when they are at 1-2 men at low health. So if a ptrs squad is in the retreat path of say a retreating grenadier squad, its almost comparable to shock troopers.

If these changes were to stay, ptrs needs a big nerf vs retreating units, more than standard rifles. And of course fixing how they blow up crew weapons.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 22:31 PMdaspoulos

Speaking purely from experience, I have a huge issue with ptrs killing off retreating squads. Units tend to retreat when they are at 1-2 men at low health. So if a ptrs squad is in the retreat path of say a retreating grenadier squad, its almost comparable to shock troopers.

If these changes were to stay, ptrs needs a big nerf vs retreating units, more than standard rifles. And of course fixing how they blow up crew weapons.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 22:31 PMdaspoulos

Speaking purely from experience, I have a huge issue with ptrs killing off retreating squads. Units tend to retreat when they are at 1-2 men at low health. So if a ptrs squad is in the retreat path of say a retreating grenadier squad, its almost comparable to shock troopers.

If these changes were to stay, ptrs needs a big nerf vs retreating units, more than standard rifles. And of course fixing how they blow up crew weapons.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 18:18 PMturbotortoise

This all predicates the absurd metaphor that people are making presuming that this is just Axis whining. When in fact giving it more AI power has unveiled larger, arguably game breaking issues.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 22:31 PMdaspoulos

Speaking purely from experience, I have a huge issue with ptrs killing off retreating squads. Units tend to retreat when they are at 1-2 men at low health. So if a ptrs squad is in the retreat path of say a retreating grenadier squad, its almost comparable to shock troopers.

If these changes were to stay, ptrs needs a big nerf vs retreating units, more than standard rifles. And of course fixing how they blow up crew weapons.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 07:35 AMAladdin

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You are wrong. guards with PTRS/lmg beats Ober with lmg head on. That should not be like that and it is fair enough considering their price difference, time they arrive, and teching Obers require and guards not.

Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2015, 14:50 PMturbotortoise

Yes I did. And I think that game effectively illustrated the issues regarding PTRS's and weapons teams as well as their great strength, which IMO is an unintended consequence of buffing guards creating a situation which is contrary to the spirit of the game.

What's your opinion? Or did you just come to watch the show?

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 08:34 AMKurtWilde

the show? your whining is the show? I came to read and learn and I also read Cpl S's guide, which you clearly have not read. I don't think guards PTRS are OP, its just decent again. I am using guards again almost after a year. In a few weeks people would have figured how to deal with them. there is no need to whine about it because they are not OP. I think a million people before me told you what a PTRs is, oui?

Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2015, 10:31 AMNEVEC

Ptrs is not AT weapon. It was antinothing, now it became AI at least with ability to sometimes hurt 222 or halftruck. So please stop calling it AT weapon or bad design. Ptrs antinothing was really bad design.