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Changing IS2 back to 240 damage

20 Apr 2015, 05:21 AM
#81
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Apr 2015, 23:49 PMVuther

The point I'm saying is, were Soviets' late-game intended to be built around their call-ins, there would not be commanders for them without late-game call-ins. If it were such a simplistic design rule, the large amount of commanders contrary to that would definitely have not happened.


competitive commanders are actually the one with call ins.

still waiting for a guards is2 commander. oh why not slap in a mark target and conscript repair too.

20 Apr 2015, 05:39 AM
#82
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2015, 05:21 AMwongtp


competitive commanders are actually the one with call ins.

still waiting for a guards is2 commander. oh why not slap in a mark target and conscript repair too.


Sounds imbalanced. Could you imagine spotting scopes, smoke, Stuka CAS, Tiger, Resource conversion?
20 Apr 2015, 05:59 AM
#83
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Radio intercept
Conscript PTRS
Conscript Repair package
Incendiary Strike
IS2

Sounds fair to me.
20 Apr 2015, 06:11 AM
#84
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Radio intercept
Conscript PTRS
Conscript Repair package
Incendiary Strike
IS2

Sounds fair to me.

Being able to know everything your enemy produces, heavy tanks, conscript super rifles and conscript repair sounds fair to you? With that much utility You'd have literally no reason not to just go con spam into is2. They should call it Conscriptoviky call-insk Tankoviky spamka or bullshit in english.
20 Apr 2015, 06:29 AM
#85
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No, they are too busy being good to post on the forums


+1
20 Apr 2015, 07:18 AM
#86
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there are plenty of shit commanders for both OKH and USSR. even USF and OKW have bad commanders.

But USF, OKW and ost doesn't get punished by losing the game without a chance to stand up by picking them.

Being able to know everything your enemy produces, heavy tanks, conscript super rifles and conscript repair sounds fair to you? With that much utility You'd have literally no reason not to just go con spam into is2. They should call it Conscriptoviky call-insk Tankoviky spamka or bullshit in english.

Nerf merge in return, it just have too much utility!
20 Apr 2015, 07:24 AM
#87
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2015, 07:18 AMKatitof

But USF, OKW and ost doesn't get punished by losing the game without a chance to stand up by picking them.
Nerf merge in return, it just have too much utility!
With just con spam merging can't get any better than that.
20 Apr 2015, 10:17 AM
#88
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Being able to know everything your enemy produces, heavy tanks, conscript super rifles and conscript repair sounds fair to you? With that much utility You'd have literally no reason not to just go con spam into is2. They should call it Conscriptoviky call-insk Tankoviky spamka or bullshit in english.


Sorry I forgot to include Mark Target as well.

Now it's fair.

:snfPeter:
20 Apr 2015, 14:09 PM
#89
avatar of WingZero

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If you have a problem with Soviet Call in Meta game, why not make replace T-34 with T-34/85s and have IS2 non doctrinal like KT.
20 Apr 2015, 14:51 PM
#90
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If you have a problem with Soviet Call in Meta game, why not make replace T-34 with T-34/85s and have IS2 non doctrinal like KT.


I agree with this to some extent.


The Soviet call-in meta is spoiling the game but it's not like there is a better option for players.
20 Apr 2015, 16:47 PM
#91
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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Apr 2015, 22:39 PMKatitof

The delicious axis tears are the best sign that the changes were needed and spot on.
IS-2 wasn't changed, exactly same things that countered it last patch counter it this patch, KT included.

Funny that you are still same noob as I remember you use to be - well as somebody said some people will never change.
20 Apr 2015, 17:42 PM
#92
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Random no-name scrub trying to insult me with a word he doesn't comprehend, adorable :megusta:
20 Apr 2015, 19:25 PM
#93
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Hail to the hollowed Katitof and his fame. The one and only, the Master of Disaster, the Prince of Nerf, the King of Troll, the Dancing Soviet-Imp
Splendid
20 Apr 2015, 19:27 PM
#94
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jump backJump back to quoted post19 Apr 2015, 23:49 PMVuther

The point I'm saying is, were Soviets' late-game intended to be built around their call-ins, there would not be commanders for them without late-game call-ins. If it were such a simplistic design rule, the large amount of commanders contrary to that would definitely have not happened.


What a lot of people forget, or possibly never considered, is that some Commanders were also intended for use in TOW, and originally you were hardwired into using a limited selection.

Now it is very hard to design a Commander that works in 1941 TOW and is also useful in 1944-5 MP.

That is why the Soviet Common Commanders include 2 that are good in MP (in fact the two best) and 4 of the ones that are vanishingly rare.

There is a similar issue with Ost.


Now, Relic have never come out and said this, but it should be quite clear if you consider it for a moment.
20 Apr 2015, 19:29 PM
#95
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Being able to know everything your enemy produces, heavy tanks, conscript super rifles and conscript repair sounds fair to you? With that much utility You'd have literally no reason not to just go con spam into is2. They should call it Conscriptoviky call-insk Tankoviky spamka or bullshit in english.


Wait for Custom Commanders:

Repair Station
Recon
Guards in M3
Incendiary Barrage
IS-2
20 Apr 2015, 20:34 PM
#96
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Hail to the hollowed Katitof and his fame. The one and only, the Master of Disaster, the Prince of Nerf, the King of Troll, the Dancing Soviet-Imp
Splendid

+10

That noob is really a piece of work :D
20 Apr 2015, 21:37 PM
#97
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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Apr 2015, 05:21 AMwongtp


competitive commanders are actually the one with call ins.

still waiting for a guards is2 commander. oh why not slap in a mark target and conscript repair too.



Just wait for the upcoming custom commanders Kappa
25 Apr 2015, 13:42 PM
#98
avatar of Tea Maker Machine

Posts: 270

Accuracy is the main issue, reduce it's HP but improve it's accuracy and scatter significantly.

And increase the price.
26 Apr 2015, 01:02 AM
#99
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Posts: 692

Accuracy is the main issue, reduce it's HP but improve it's accuracy and scatter significantly.

And increase the price.


lol
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