Paratrooper Thompson

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 16:00 PMturbotortoise

the thompson, give me two more plz
but yeah, there is literally 0 drawback to 30's, whereas as mentioned, the thompson can be situational, i only prefer them 'cos they make a cool sound and can wipe squads if you get a really good flank, which is fun. tactical assault is cruel if you can managed to jump some low health retreating squads. also, 3 survival instinct bulletins can be a lot of fun.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 18:46 PMAustralian Magic

I belive Assault Guards use only 3 Ppsh, like Cons while Shocks have 6 of them.

In the end you get Shocks - amazing close combat unit and Assault grens - pure pudding without good dps at any range.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 20:44 PMAlexzandvar

Assault Guards use 6 PPsH. They also have a better nade than Shocks.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 20:59 PMcomm_ash

No, they have 3 ppsh and 3 SVT. No armor or real DPS, so they aren't very good.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 18:39 PMAlexzandvar

Both Shocks and Assault Guards use the PPsH.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 23:00 PMNeo

Except shocks have 6 of them and armour. Apart from that they are exactly the same…

Well technically the 3 SVT's give them better DPS over range than Shocks; but this makes one wonder why regular guards don't have SVT's.

Technically 3 Guards with SVT's + 3 with PPsH = More DPS than guards at every range except when regular ones get their 2 DP's.



EDIT: And no squads except shocks have armor anymore.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 20:44 PMAlexzandvar

Assault Guards use 6 PPsH. They also have a better nade than Shocks.

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 23:46 PMelchino7

I don't know if they have a special profile for Guards with PPSH and SVT (i'll think so), so DPS may vary and you can't just use Cons, Shocks or Penals DPS. Theres a world of difference between Shocks PPSH and cons PPSH, for example.

SVT are carbines, which has a different weapon profile to SMGs.

Conclusion: Assault Guards sucks and are not effective, on the context of it's arriving. It's like having Assault grenadiers arriving at 5CP

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PSA: remember when using tactical assault, that your units get's received accuracy, making them melt easily.
(Don't use Tactical assault against STG Obers, it doesnt work )

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 23:49 PMAlexzandvar

COH2 stats doesn't have the Guards PPsH, and the SVT they use is the same as the Penal SVT.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2015, 01:34 AMelchino7

And how do you know it's the same profile as the Penal SVT?

Jump back to quoted post23 Mar 2015, 19:42 PMWhat Doth Life?!

There is a glaring drawback to .30s compared to Thompsons: dropping them for the enemy.