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US Crew Pop Trick: Exploit or Intended?

17 Mar 2015, 19:29 PM
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avatar of =]H[= Tennessee88

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So I by accident stumbled upon the ability of US forces to go above 100 pop by having the crew pop out of their vehicles. Is this considered an exploit or is it by design? Searched around and have not found a conclusive answer.

17 Mar 2015, 19:30 PM
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17 Mar 2015, 19:36 PM
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Relic said intended. (I read that as OOPS OH WELL F IT too hard to try and fix)
17 Mar 2015, 19:38 PM
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Intended design choice.
17 Mar 2015, 19:55 PM
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It is intended in so far as Relic knows about the issue but decided to not do anything about it because it is too much work for them. You can be sure they don't intend it because they think it is a good idea.
17 Mar 2015, 19:57 PM
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It's a design choice. It's not so much intended as it was the result of how they designed the US, and they aren't going to fix it since it has a low impact on games and would take too much effort to get rid of.
17 Mar 2015, 20:01 PM
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avatar of =]H[= Tennessee88

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So it terms of sportsmanship (for large games since this isn't an issue in 1v1 & 2v2) is this frowned upon when y'all play?
17 Mar 2015, 20:04 PM
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So it terms of sportsmanship (for large games since this isn't an issue in 1v1 & 2v2) is this frowned upon when y'all play?


Well seeing as most 1v1s you wont get the opportunity to use this glitch, or if you do it's probably because the Axis player is losing badly, I'd say no it's not any more frowned upon than abusing OKW truck pushing or A-moving with the OKW 251/17 to set-up and move at the same time.
17 Mar 2015, 20:07 PM
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So it terms of sportsmanship (for large games since this isn't an issue in 1v1 & 2v2) is this frowned upon when y'all play?


Firstly, you can use it whenever you want, only trolls will have sth against it. Seconly, due to overwhelming mess and imbalance mistakes in factions design there is nothing like sport or competitive play above 2v2.
17 Mar 2015, 20:12 PM
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Firstly, you can use it whenever you want, only trolls will have sth against it. Seconly, due to overwhelming mess and imbalance there is nothing like sport or competitive play above 2v2.
Considering the state of US late game I don't think anyone can fault them for using any advantage possible.
17 Mar 2015, 20:15 PM
#11
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I honestly have never seen this being exploited. And i never did it myself. Because i dont like exploits and because i forgot that its actually possible.
But hey, thanks for reminding others here. I foresee slightly more exploit usage.
17 Mar 2015, 20:24 PM
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I honestly have never seen this being exploited. And i never did it myself. Because i dont like exploits and because i forgot that its actually possible.
But hey, thanks for reminding others here. I foresee slightly more exploit usage.

No one above scrubbidy level did see that.
Its useful and usable exclusively for 4v4 fuckfests where players are of especially bad quality(sitting in their base until maxed pop with tanks).
17 Mar 2015, 22:07 PM
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About the only time I've ever seen the ability to go over popcap used effectively was in a campy 4v4 when it was used to get an inordinate number of priests onto the field.
17 Mar 2015, 22:25 PM
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If you don't mind decrewing your own Sturmtiger you can get an instant reload on it.

EDIT: as well as pop cap abuse by doing it.
17 Mar 2015, 22:32 PM
#15
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Well seeing as most 1v1s you wont get the opportunity to use this glitch, or if you do it's probably because the Axis player is losing badly, I'd say no it's not any more frowned upon than abusing OKW truck pushing or A-moving with the OKW 251/17 to set-up and move at the same time.

Probably a bad comparison because FUCK THOSE OTHER THINGS!

I'll admit if I've ever went against the glitch I've never noticed because I can't count pop so good :foreveralone:
17 Mar 2015, 23:19 PM
#16
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That "glitch" is the only thing that lets usf fight against german heavies. It's not exclusive to team games because of simple reason: you have russians to kill tanks for you in team games. I used it few times myself in very long 1v1 matches and sometimes it lets you win against all odds. But it's also hard to use and very punishing if not used correctly, couse you can find yourself with only tanks and 1-2 men squads against paks, then you're screwed.
18 Mar 2015, 00:29 AM
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i think it is ok to use it.
18 Mar 2015, 07:40 AM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Mar 2015, 20:24 PMKatitof

No one above scrubbidy level did see that.
Its useful and usable exclusively for 4v4 fuckfests where players are of especially bad quality(sitting in their base until maxed pop with tanks).


Thank you

I use it a lot and I think doing so is a reasonably important part of managing the US late game.



Generally I will go in, hit, pull back, get out, repair, order another Sherman whilst we are decrewed and reinforce Infantry, after the next attack the Sherman will have finished building and will pop out when we go below pop cap again

Repeat

Shermans have to be committed en masse in late team games anyway so if you aren't using them right now - decrew them
18 Mar 2015, 16:15 PM
#19
avatar of WingZero

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You can exploit this trick but I would not recommend it. The US man power drain and reinforcements of certain squads will cause allot problems with pop caps.
18 Mar 2015, 19:40 PM
#20
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Use it with Priest. Theres no reason to have them crewed while on cooldown.
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