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21 Mar 2015, 16:53 PM
#201
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My bad, I thought he was saying about 76 but SU, not T34/76.

That's what happens when you see only "76" without SU or T before :)

T34/76 is fine. Maybe little better AI but overall it's good.
At least I find them very useful.


When Relic "accidentally" reduced the reload time by a bit (which not one soul complained about) I think the T34/76 was in just the right spot.
21 Mar 2015, 17:32 PM
#202
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 15:58 PMJohnnyB
Guys, in one match a T34/76 wiped 2 full shrecked volk squads one after another in 2 successive shots. I couldn't believe my eyes. You realy underestimate this tank. I love it when I'm playing with it, hate it when playing against. It's not by far as weak as you tend to present it.


I have once killed panther with SU-76.

I suppose SU-76 is perfectly fine and balanced unit now and simply 100% of community underestimate it.





point:
It is as weak as it is presented, a SINGLE instance of unit doing well doesn't prove it as being OK, otherwise panzerwerfer, 222, flame 251 and so on are perfectly fine and balanced units, it just happens that players really underestimate them. :loco:
21 Mar 2015, 17:33 PM
#203
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 17:32 PMKatitof


I have once killed panther with SU-76.

I suppose SU-76 is perfectly fine and balanced unit now.


Why is people stating the T34/76 can crush and OKW has no snare such a shock to you, have you never used a tank to crush before?

Shermans are great at it to.
21 Mar 2015, 18:50 PM
#204
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Sounds like entirely bad luck with RNG, im pretty sure hypothetically a Panzer IV or HE Sherman could do the same....


Correct but what do people actually expect from the t-34 its stats slightly lower then the p4's but thats fine considering the cost. want a better t-34 its going to need a price increase.
21 Mar 2015, 18:57 PM
#205
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jump backJump back to quoted post5 Mar 2015, 14:18 PMRollo
My reasoning is 320mp is too much for an engineer unit that lacks demo charges, flame throwers or a heavy AT mine. They have decent early game DPS but is that really worth another 150mp over other engie units when their reinforce cost is already more expensive? Maybe back in WFA alpha when they were early game terminators but post-nerf Sturms even lose to a single con squad in cover.

The current replacement cost means if you lose your initial sturm squad to a stray mortar round or grenade you have to waste an extortionate amount of MP for just to get back the ability to counter demo charges/mines. Lose a second squad and it will be GG right there, the Paul vs Jesulin final a few days ago was a good example of this.

Just to highlight the difference in cost but say you lose three sweeper squads over the course of an entire game that would be 960mp, in comparison the Soviets would have to spend a meagre 510 and sweepers are a much more vital part of army composition for OKW than the Sovits.

I suggest the initial purchasing cost be adjusted to 270mp down from 320mp, the reinforce cost would stay the same so "Sturm spam" would not become a problem.


Sturms are worth their cost, they have insane repair late game. Very good repair unit, you can repair a unit in seconds especially with the minesweeper upgrade.
21 Mar 2015, 18:59 PM
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There seems to have been a bar-room brawl here just recently, in which the seasoned 'contestants' have chosen to slug it out grimly, rather than report each other. I have to respect that - up to a point.

But you have all had your say now - the patch is only 10 days away - I know many of you are frustrated with the lack of progress, but please, keep it clean from now on? :)



21 Mar 2015, 19:00 PM
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21 Mar 2015, 19:11 PM
#208
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-Thread is about Sturmpios

-Telling people to use a tank to roll over infantry because it is a better method than the main gun is sad as hell.
21 Mar 2015, 19:19 PM
#209
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-Thread is about Sturmpios

-Telling people to use a tank to roll over infantry because it is a better method than the main gun is sad as hell.

It's roleplaying with the Make War Not Love skins.
21 Mar 2015, 19:21 PM
#210
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-Thread is about Sturmpios

-Telling people to use a tank to roll over infantry because it is a better method than the main gun is sad as hell.


Rolling over infantry is better than using the main gun for almost every medium tank in the game lol, and allies just have the most medium tanks.
21 Mar 2015, 19:22 PM
#211
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 18:50 PMJaigen


Correct but what do people actually expect from the t-34 its stats slightly lower then the p4's but thats fine considering the cost. want a better t-34 its going to need a price increase.


Sure.

Its price is not advantage at all since it doesn't cost 90fu anymore.
ATM its price is high enough to ensure something like outnumbering opponents armor is impossible and low enough to ensure it'll suck big time.

I'm all for increasing its price and making the main gun hit things.
21 Mar 2015, 19:23 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Mar 2015, 17:32 PMKatitof


I have once killed panther with SU-76.



I Killed a KT with 6

Pens more consistently then jackson..

but a broken clock is right twice a day :snfPeter:
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