How to prevent blobs

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:30 PMMarcoRossolini

Never said my stats were in anyway better mate, it was just your insinuation that I was some noob who didn't play the game I was trying to point out was false.

"image of blobbing"? What else am I meant to call it then?

This set of 4-5 units coming toward me shooting off shreks at everything isn't a blob at all. of course not!

Dude, you can't deny that large stacks of units being controlled as one body goes against the vision of the game as this tactical RTS.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:26 PMBlackScythe

@Vipuks nobody cares about the stats, blobbing should be punished regardless of the rank, faction or Player experience.

P.S. more hours doesn't mean better gameplay. You can also have 5k hours, 2500 in menu and 2500 vs. easy bots.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:35 PMVIPUKS

In the end you will not stop player from blobing, everyone blob in rts games sc2 coh serious and other games...
It's meta so deal with it.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:35 PMVIPUKS

Mate you missing all my points now. I explained everything before. In the end you will not stop player from blobing, everyone blob in rts games sc2 coh serious and other games...
It's meta so deal with it.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:40 PMUnshavenbackman

I think you have missed the point of the thread again. Op suggests something. Dont let it frighten you, as its only theory, you can continue to obey the meta in gameplay.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:33 PMMarcoRossolini

watch out, you've questioned his stats... now we're really in for it...

(though admittedly, you can't argue stats with a guy who is top 20-50 in everything)

@ Burts

Sorry, I don't accept that. Blobbing detracts with almost every mechanic in the game. We might as well play starcraft.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:43 PMBurts

OKW suffering too little manpower bleed rather than anything else.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:49 PMSteinerGER

Objection! OKW simply has no vehicles to spend their MP on due to the arbitrary resource starving shit and not due to their units being too cheap to reinforce.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:41 PMMarcoRossolini

CoH2 doesn't have a morale system (a conventional one I mean, suppression kinda is one), so other ways need to be thought up.

My suggestions would be to make their received accuracy higher and a received damage increase when a certain amount of squads are too close to each other, say 3.

The options are there. The meta exists to be changed.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:43 PMBurts

No it doesn't use AOE blob punishers and blobers get destroyed. OKW blobs are a bit rampart yes, but that's a problem with OKW suffering too little manpower bleed rather than anything else.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:56 PMBurts

Sorry, but at top level in 1v1 this is not the case. OKW can easily afford vehicles and assuming equal map control, they can get a jagpanzer out at the same time a sherman comes out.. Granted, OKW usually is behind in map control, but even then they can get very good light vehicles such as the walking stuka and puma at 8 minutes or even earlier, while the flak HT usually arrives at 5-6.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 13:53 PMBlackScythe

I think i Need to say that again: This thread is not only about OKW or SU, It's about ALL factions.
So please no whinning fanboys.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 15:05 PMSteinerGER

Let me get that straight.
Stuka(100f)+Puma(70f)+Flakht(55f)+tech(0f; due to 40 starting fuel) = 225f

So OKW needs 225f for these units in the first 8minutes (you said flak 5-6min,puma and stuka at 8min)
Thats 28.125f/min on average - so it needs more fuel later due to having less income naturally at the start of the game. BTW: 28 unadjusted fuel are 42 adjusted fuel. When your opponent gets 42,42 (or OKW 28.125f)/minute you hopelessly fked up the early and can aswell call it gg. As you already said OKW has less map control so its more likely not to happen.

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 15:31 PMspam.r33k

didnt read the whole thread, but im pretty sure someone said something along the lines of:

"blobbing is a bad way to play. you sacrifice a lot of map presence for a single powerful force that is vulnerable to anti-blob measures"

+1 to that

im very happy about blobbing enemies. only 1 engagement i have to focus on, no need to worry about my capping squads getting engaged while im not noticing it and just 1 target to shot all my indirect fire/abilities at

Jump back to quoted post3 Mar 2015, 15:54 PMNeo

Unless what you gradually do is use your blob to isolate squads and wipe them.

Also, a blob allows you to take control of key sections of the map and hold them. Once you have your half of the map and the enemy's cutoff, what does it matter if your units are in one place?