PSA - USF AA HT vs CAS

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 16:25 PM☭ Калашникова ☭

the AT 1 shots most things, Sometimes depending on the RNG, CAS will not 1 shot a B4 leaving it at less than 10% health. (Pretty rare)

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 18:15 PMpigsoup

what is "PSA" anyway?

and i really hope relic "balance" (not necessarily too op i guess, but so not fun, so cheesey) this steaming hot turd of a commander on next balance patch.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 18:27 PMAlexzandvar

Public Service Announcement, and why is this commander any more cheesy than any other? It's one of Ostheer's lost few all round good commanders. It's also unique with no call in bullshit.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 18:33 PMpigsoup

not counter-able skillplanez single click insta pin, insta gib armour/arty, cause planes to crash over your enemies if they try to counter etc etc isn't cheese? isn't bullshit?

i like its uniqueness, not its bullshitiness.

also, i am sorry ostheer is underpowered in 1v1 but that is not a good argument.

the supposed draw back of armour is hugely negated in 2v2 and as well as be just non existent in 3v3+.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 18:35 PMAlexzandvar

You have no late game armor which is a killer, and Ostheer isn't very good in any game mode dude. In 3v3's and 4v4's the amount of super high dps units on the field basically relegate Ostheer to being a support faction.

It focuses more on smart use of planes and converting to munitions so you can use more grenades/abilities which is a lot more fun than armor spam. But I agree plane crashes are stupid.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 17:14 PMelchino7

Chances -of missing- are higher if you hit it from the sides, but if you put the strafe along the Howitzers, it's almost guaranteed.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 16:59 PMImagelessbean

Tried using the AA ht in AA mode the other day, was destroyed by anti tank strafe run from CAS. Player simply called in spotter which the AA ht targeted than Stuka AT strafe. Also, as noted, the planes shoot before they enter the map so they cannot be shot down. And shooting them down makes them crash on your own lines.

Air abilities are too good right now, especially stuka AT strafe in all forms. If anything Allies should have tons more air abilities.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2015, 02:38 AMFestiveLongJohns

Air abilities are no doubt frustrating and not very fun to deal with, but I don't think they are imbalanced. You sacrifice a lot as Ostheer to go for this commander, as you have no Tiger, and if you decide to spam the abilities you will be converting fuel to munitions. Being able to build one unit to counter a players entire commander choice would be pretty lame... almost as lame as the whole commander v commander strategic mechanic. (CAS v on map arty, Spearhead v SU FHQ etc etc)

Being pigeonholed into a commander choice in order to deal with your opponents commander limits your options and discourages choosing commanders that require an immediate investment like Ostruppen. It's just bad design. It would be totally fine if commanders were free and we had access to all of them at once, as that would really open the playing field up, but as it stands now...it's just bad.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2015, 02:14 AMInterloper

Once the Strafes start coming in or the recon plan passes by EVERYTHING must disperse including the AA HT, high priority targets for the CAS will be the AA HT or the major retreat point. Just get in the habit of repositioning everything once a recon flight happens. I dont have issues with the strafes, I have issues with the stupid LMG and PG blobs that steam roll my infantry and mgs, and make my sherman go up in flames instantly from 3x PG shrek volley....