Well title says it all really, I took a break from CoH for about 5 months and I come back to see these things nerfed to borderline uselessness when it comes to price-return ratio.
Even on a map like semois I tried to build a single german howi to destroy a pesky American defence, bad move two barrages and it couldn't even kill a single MG squad covering the middle VP on the map before the other player simply called in off map arty to destroy all my MP investment.
I suggest either the AoE/damage gets a slight buff or the scatter gets reduced, these things are a joke right now compared to say the B-4 that imo is a good example of arty being balanced correctly.
Werh static howitzer needs a buff
6 Jan 2015, 14:12 PM
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6 Jan 2015, 14:15 PM
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Look, I found one guy who is still using the howie! 
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
6 Jan 2015, 14:20 PM
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Nothing new but you should compare to ML-20 instead of B4.
6 Jan 2015, 14:24 PM
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Nothing new but you should compare to ML-20 instead of B4.
...and discover that ML-20 is better and worth building compared to german one.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
6 Jan 2015, 14:24 PM
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+1 I miss my old reliable LeFh 
6 Jan 2015, 14:33 PM
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...and discover that ML-20 is better and worth building compared to german one.
And this is nothing new as well
6 Jan 2015, 14:40 PM
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LOL 1 month ago I post a thread about the German Howitzer, but everyone just said it was ok!!! lol
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6 Jan 2015, 14:55 PM
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LOL 1 month ago I post a thread about the German Howitzer, but everyone just said it was ok!!! lol
I wasn't around
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
6 Jan 2015, 14:59 PM
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In my honest opinion it should keep it's current damage but just fire a lot more shells in a more accurate area. Make it a good area denial weapon that punishes blobs.
6 Jan 2015, 16:03 PM
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buff it relic.
6 Jan 2015, 17:38 PM
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I agree. Buff the ML-20 also. They both got whacked way too hard with the nerf bat (although the pre-nerf LeFH was pretty ridiculous). IIRC the nerf simply reduced the amount of shells by 50% for both. If they increase the number of shells per barrage to somewhere between the old number and the current number, I think these would be quite nice again.
6 Jan 2015, 17:45 PM
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I miss using Arty in COH2. I really think they need to be looked at so we can add some fun to the game.
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6 Jan 2015, 17:56 PM
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I like it. Just needs more range and an extra two shells.
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6 Jan 2015, 18:29 PM
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4 more shells.
6 Jan 2015, 20:17 PM
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Moar explosions!
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6 Jan 2015, 20:30 PM
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waaay more shells would be good, really the fact it fired so many isn't an issue with all the counters to static arty.
6 Jan 2015, 20:30 PM
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+1 I miss my old reliable LeFh
I don't.
Permanent barrage and easy victory by annihilation anyone?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
6 Jan 2015, 20:35 PM
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Give soviets/american's something to counter static arty. (They already kinda have this in the b4) and I wouldn't see a problem with the LeFh being like it used to be.
7 Jan 2015, 01:45 AM
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Look, I found one guy who is still using the howie!
I'm still using it! Punishing blobbers with it is awesome: http://bit.ly/1zSqOks , http://bit.ly/1zSqORC
I think both the leFH 18 and ML-20 could use some accuracy buff - conventional artillery pieces were more accurate than rocket artillery, while in game you can bring the Katyusha or Panzerwerfer closer to the target and enjoy accuracy like you can't dream of with the howitzers.
7 Jan 2015, 03:20 AM
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the damage currently sucks but i think giving it a BIG aoe of 20-30 damage, and maybe more shells, would work.
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