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'Random Army' Button

6 Dec 2014, 09:34 AM
#1
avatar of Anarcy

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I know, I keep repeating myself, but it is, truely, a matter which is quite dear to me: the random army button.
Come on, it can't be too hard to implement that feature. Coh1 had it. Why not Coh2?

I'm really happy just playing any army, I don't want to play only one. (You could say: 'Okay, just choose another army every game.' but it is not the same as being surprised which army to play).
Additionally (and maybe most importantly): You or your team can play against any Faction. So the waiting time should decrease.

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam
6 Dec 2014, 09:51 AM
#2
avatar of Australian Magic

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Useless. Who wants to play different army will play with different. Dont need random for that. And who wants to play one side, will play one side. But thats just my opinion.
6 Dec 2014, 10:05 AM
#3
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That feature in coh1 was good, when i was unsure what i wanted to play as, i just picked random and played with factions i hadn't had much experience before ( OF Factions ). Got me into playing more PE and i got better in the game overall. I don't play soviets in coh2 cause the faction doesn't appeal to me, but if i would get it with random pick, i would have no other choice than to try and win, who knows, maybe even start to like the faction.
6 Dec 2014, 10:18 AM
#4
avatar of Australian Magic

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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2014, 10:05 AMSpanky
That feature in coh1 was good, when i was unsure what i wanted to play as, i just picked random and played with factions i hadn't had much experience before ( OF Factions ). Got me into playing more PE and i got better in the game overall. I don't play soviets in coh2 cause the faction doesn't appeal to me, but if i would get it with random pick, i would have no other choice than to try and win, who knows, maybe even start to like the faction.


You can simply pick up SU and launch the game :P
Taking SU with random its just fooling yourself.
6 Dec 2014, 12:03 PM
#5
avatar of Gneckes

Posts: 196

Would be cool for People like me that just can't decide which faction to Play.
Needed? no. But would be Nice To Have.
Vaz
6 Dec 2014, 12:43 PM
#6
avatar of Vaz

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How do you think this will play into the party system that coh2 multi is built around? I is it going to roll a random army for the side your teamate picked? Is it only applicable in 1v1? Only applicable when your the only one in a party? This isn't something easy to put in. How about you assign an army to 4 numbers, find an rng online, set the range to be those 4 numbers, then roll it before you choose your army? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the feature, I just don't see how it can be implemented in game.
6 Dec 2014, 12:57 PM
#7
avatar of gokkel

Posts: 542

This is something that should be in the game from the start and I don't see any reason apart from Relic's laziness that speaks against it. I don't even know any other RTS where I cannot just pick "random".
6 Dec 2014, 13:04 PM
#8
avatar of boc120

Posts: 245

The main point of a random button, for me, would be decreased wait times.
6 Dec 2014, 13:25 PM
#9
avatar of Winterfeld

Posts: 249

jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2014, 12:43 PMVaz
How do you think this will play into the party system that coh2 multi is built around? I is it going to roll a random army for the side your teamate picked? Is it only applicable in 1v1? Only applicable when your the only one in a party? This isn't something easy to put in. How about you assign an army to 4 numbers, find an rng online, set the range to be those 4 numbers, then roll it before you choose your army? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the feature, I just don't see how it can be implemented in game.


I dont see the problem. First if everyone on your team has choosen the "random" faction, then the game first chosses one of the two factions for you (allies or Axis) and then it chosses a random nation for you. Should be pretty easy!
And if one of your teammates has choosen russians then you only get a random allied nation. Should be a pretty easy feature o0
6 Dec 2014, 14:08 PM
#10
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2014, 12:43 PMVaz
How do you think this will play into the party system that coh2 multi is built around? I is it going to roll a random army for the side your teamate picked? Is it only applicable in 1v1? Only applicable when your the only one in a party? This isn't something easy to put in. How about you assign an army to 4 numbers, find an rng online, set the range to be those 4 numbers, then roll it before you choose your army? Don't get me wrong, I'm not against the feature, I just don't see how it can be implemented in game.


Are u kidding me? They done it in vCoH, in 2006, and that feature was great. Even i can create program that will choose random number between 1-4, now assign every faction a number and that's it. OFC that u can't choose random if u have a teammate who selected a specific faction.
This is simplicity itself, amount of stupid sh*t to read here amuse me!

6 Dec 2014, 15:20 PM
#11
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Of course COH2 should have this. We've been asking for it for 2 and a 1/2 years. There's absolutely no reason not to have it.
6 Dec 2014, 15:44 PM
#12
avatar of elchino7
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I'm surprised no one has come with the cynical response of:
"Just play allies. Throw a coin and play that faction". Because the times it would put you as axis is so low (unless 1v1 and one in a blue moon 2v2).

Random army should come also with random commanders, even if you don't own them. That would be interesting.
6 Dec 2014, 15:47 PM
#13
avatar of Highfiveeeee

Posts: 1740

Don't understand it either. This is a feature that wouldn't take a single day to implement and would reduce the waiting time in ranked very much. Relic logic.
6 Dec 2014, 15:50 PM
#14
avatar of Rupert

Posts: 186

The problem with the "random" faction is due to how the ladder queue system works with your bulletins/inventory.

You can't be changing your inventory while in queue, so everything has to be pre-set before clicking queue. Which means having a "random faction" choice is useless because u'd have to stop and choose a inventory setup before pressing "search".

It's not difficult to see why not, really....
6 Dec 2014, 16:10 PM
#15
avatar of gokkel

Posts: 542

jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2014, 15:50 PMRupert
The problem with the "random" faction is due to how the ladder queue system works with your bulletins/inventory.

You can't be changing your inventory while in queue, so everything has to be pre-set before clicking queue. Which means having a "random faction" choice is useless because u'd have to stop and choose a inventory setup before pressing "search".

It's not difficult to see why not, really....


So you could just set up a loadout for all your armies in the customizer before you start a search... if you didn't do it and choose random you get whatever layout you had for that army last time. This is no issue at all.
6 Dec 2014, 18:10 PM
#16
avatar of voltardark

Posts: 976

jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2014, 09:34 AMAnarcy
I know, I keep repeating myself, but it is, truely, a matter which is quite dear to me: the random army button.
Come on, it can't be too hard to implement that feature. Coh1 had it. Why not Coh2?

I'm really happy just playing any army, I don't want to play only one. (You could say: 'Okay, just choose another army every game.' but it is not the same as being surprised which army to play).
Additionally (and maybe most importantly): You or your team can play against any Faction. So the waiting time should decrease.

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam


Yes, it's a greatly needed option.
6 Dec 2014, 18:21 PM
#17
avatar of RMMLz

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I would love that, although I always want to play axis but because of the long waiting time I end up playing Allies.
6 Dec 2014, 18:32 PM
#18
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2014, 15:50 PMRupert
The problem with the "random" faction is due to how the ladder queue system works with your bulletins/inventory.

You can't be changing your inventory while in queue, so everything has to be pre-set before clicking queue. Which means having a "random faction" choice is useless because u'd have to stop and choose a inventory setup before pressing "search".

It's not difficult to see why not, really....


I agree.

Clicking 'RANDOM' on vCoH invariably meant you got copped with Britz....not difficult to see why. Nobody else wanted to play them.

Judging from the responses here, those advocating any army are welcome to their choice.....just don't come bitching onto the Balance forum if it all goes tits up for you.....
6 Dec 2014, 18:55 PM
#19
avatar of swiffy

Posts: 124

I want it! It's a good thing to have.
6 Dec 2014, 19:01 PM
#20
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Dec 2014, 18:55 PMswiffy
I want it! It's a good thing to have.


Good luck with that ;) (Please don't come back here raging, if you cop the weakest Army time after time - I'm sure you will not ;) )
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